Religion II

[hcap]

You are not following the most basic stuff. Useless explaining it to you.

Mañana bunky.

[boxcar]

Originally Posted by hcap

You are not following the most basic stuff. Useless explaining it to you.

Mañana bunky.

I'm not following the "most basic stuff"!?

You're the one who can't figure out that Nature teaches us with its sunrises and sunsets exactly what the logical steam of Time is. You have denied that our sunrises and sunsets having anything to do with the "arrow of time".

Hey...if by tomorrow, which chronologically follows today but is logically ahead of us, you get to feelin' lucky, Humpty, tackle all my questions in 6428 & 29.

[hcap]

etc, etc.

[hcap]

Hey bunky. Feel sorry I blew you off with some snoring.

Remember I said Actor told you the vast majority of the space an atom occupies is devoid of matter? Space can be occupied mixed in with not occupied within the same atom! So heavenly bodies can travel in space devoid of matter and occupied by matter all at the same time. Gee, how's that for the law of NC?

That is some of the basic stuff you are not computing to swell Shirley.

[boxcar]

Originally Posted by hcap

Hey bunky. Feel sorry I blew you off with some snoring.

Remember I said Actor told you the vast majority of the space an atom occupies is devoid of matter? Space can be occupied mixed in with not occupied within the same atom! So heavenly bodies can travel in space devoid of matter and occupied by matter all at the same time. Gee, how's that for the law of NC?

That is some of the basic stuff you are not computing to swell Shirley.

All Space "can be occupied mixed in with not occupied". The space in my family room is the same way. Some space is occupied with furniture. Other space not so much. However, the space that is actually occupied with something is also not empty at the same time and in the same sense. How's that for the LNC? Shirley U Jest with this nonsense!

Don't forget my questions in 6428 & 29.

[hcap]

Originally Posted by boxcar

All Space "can be occupied mixed in with not occupied". The space in my family room is the same way. Some space is occupied with furniture. Other space not so much. However, the space that is actually occupied with something is also not empty at the same time and in the same sense. How's that for the LNC? Shirley U Jest with this nonsense!

Don't forget my questions in 6428 & 29.

The glitch here is the "same sense" requires drilling down to the specifications........ Since all matter in swampland and everywhere else is composed of atoms, which themselves are composed of a nix of vastly unoccupied space and a minuscule amount of occupied space....... ALL matter composed of atoms is both composed of matter and devoid of matter at the same time and of the same sense.

Too bad there are no Zen masters named Shirley.

[Actor]

Originally Posted by hcap

Actor is a professional physicist.

Retired.

[hcap]

Originally Posted by Actor

Retired.

But your brain cells are not, unlike our retired 30 year professional gambler's 1/2 dozen or so still functioning.

[boxcar]

Originally Posted by hcap

The glitch here is the "same sense" requires drilling down to the specifications........ Since all matter in swampland and everywhere else is composed of atoms, which themselves are composed of a nix of vastly unoccupied space and a minuscule amount of occupied space....... ALL matter composed of atoms is both composed of matter and devoid of matter at the same time and of the same sense.

Too bad there are no Zen masters named Shirley.

But not in the same space. A room cannot be entirely empty and filled with furniture at the same time and in the same sense. However a room can be partially filled with furniture, leaving plenty of empty space ...to fill it up at a future date.

[boxcar]

Originally Posted by hcap

But your brain cells are not....

That's so highly debatable about Actor, it's worthy of a thread of its own.

[hcap]

Originally Posted by boxcar

But not in the same space. A room cannot be entirely empty and filled with furniture at the same time and in the same sense. However a room can be partially filled with furniture, leaving plenty of empty space ...to fill it up at a future date.

Your room ok. But an atom can.

Is the universe full of boxcarian coffee tables or atoms? Your damp swampland analogies don't hold up.

[hcap]

Originally Posted by boxcar

That's so highly debatable about Actor, it's worthy of a thread of its own.

You are the one who is constantly losing track of what you say and have said.

[hcap]

Originally Posted by boxcar

But not in the same space. A room cannot be entirely empty and filled with furniture at the same time and in the same sense. However a room can be partially filled with furniture, leaving plenty of empty space ...to fill it up at a future date.

Tjhe problem is without "drilling down" to a deeper understanding of an atom's structure, until recently----specifically after 17th century pseudo-science you preach, the atom appeared completely solid.

The LNC is useless without drilling down to deeper understandings. Atoms once appeared solid to human perception in spite of it's vastly devoid of matter composition.

I tried to make similar points in bringing up the uncertainty of human limitations perceiving the quantum level.

Aristotle and the other classical philosophers who formulated the LNC were hampered by lack of information. Theory can only go so far. Evidence is needed to drill down deeper and "flesh out" theory.

The problem abounds in your 11 part thesis. Engineers sneer at poor workmanship referring to such devices as a kludge or kluge.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kludge

A kludge or kluge (/klʌdʒ, kluːdʒ/) is a workaround or quick-and-dirty solution that is clumsy, inelegant, inefficient, difficult to extend and hard to maintain. This term is used in diverse fields such as computer science, aerospace engineering, Internet slang, evolutionary neuroscience, and government.
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A working model usually vacates the term. Working models are demonstrable evidence.

[bpiets]

...and it is 'FRICTION' that causes all Matter to be rounded out in space...just like our earth....lol...'movement' causes 'friction ' and heat etc...

[hcap]

Originally Posted by bpiets

...and it is 'FRICTION' that causes all Matter to be rounded out in space...just like our earth....lol...'movement' causes 'friction ' and heat etc...

Friction is the interaction of "rough"surfaces. Rough is relative. There are smooth surfaces as well.

And often in space surfaces do not interact. Time is also a factor.