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11-23-2018, 05:42 AM
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Originally Posted by Buckeye
Firstly, we do not have a democracy and that was by design.
Second, show me where "some of the most prominent posters here were calling Obama a "Muslim-loving Kenyan piece of Krap", and his wife an "ugly, fat cow"...during Obama's presidency."
Rude behavior should always be called out.
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You do not have to search much furthrt than Tom....
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And McCain served the US himself, unlike the Kenyan Pile of Krap who wanted to fundamentally change it. It had nothing to do with his color, it had to do with the fact that he is/was a sniveling POS anti-American coward.
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11-23-2018, 07:35 AM
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i would say there is very little doubt that Putin fixed the presidential election. the question is did Trump know ahead of time?
i'd say its pretty unlikely that he did know anything because Putin had a covert plan and i don't think he was taking any chances letting anyone know what he was doing.
before this whole election, Putin hated Hillary Clinton because she threatened his country while she was secretary of state, plus the democrats are war-mongers.
i really can't blame Putin for doing what he did, he must have felt that he needed to protect his country and had no chance if Clinton got elected.
there are probably plenty of things that Trump has said that does not reflect our international interest's. but giving credit to him, he hasn't done anything bad except for opening up his mouth.
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11-23-2018, 08:02 AM
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Originally Posted by lamboguy
i would say there is very little doubt that Putin fixed the presidential election. the question is did Trump know ahead of time?
i'd say its pretty unlikely that he did know anything because Putin had a covert plan and i don't think he was taking any chances letting anyone know what he was doing.
before this whole election, Putin hated Hillary Clinton because she threatened his country while she was secretary of state, plus the democrats are war-mongers.
i really can't blame Putin for doing what he did, he must have felt that he needed to protect his country and had no chance if Clinton got elected.
there are probably plenty of things that Trump has said that does not reflect our international interest's. but giving credit to him, he hasn't done anything bad except for opening up his mouth.
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11-23-2018, 10:14 AM
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Originally Posted by hcap
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I believe I used the term terrorist Kenyan Pile of Krap.
I did not call his with a fat cow.
Not saying I didn't THINK it.
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11-23-2018, 10:18 AM
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Originally Posted by lamboguy
i would say there is very little doubt that Putin fixed the presidential election. the question is did Trump know ahead of time?
i'd say its pretty unlikely that he did know anything because Putin had a covert plan and i don't think he was taking any chances letting anyone know what he was doing.
before this whole election, Putin hated Hillary Clinton because she threatened his country while she was secretary of state, plus the democrats are war-mongers.
i really can't blame Putin for doing what he did, he must have felt that he needed to protect his country and had no chance if Clinton got elected.
there are probably plenty of things that Trump has said that does not reflect our international interest's. but giving credit to him, he hasn't done anything bad except for opening up his mouth.
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Please.......just try for Pete’s sake to prove with “little doubt” that Putin fixed the Presidential election. How? They didn’t change any votes. Just how in the holy hell you come to that conclusion is crazy.
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11-23-2018, 10:31 AM
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More votes were subjected to fixing in Floriduh than anything RUSSIA did.
At worst, RUSSIA targeted ads.
Targeting ads are only effective when they influence stupid people.
So hcap is saying the RUSSIANS identified stupid democrats and targeted them.
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11-23-2018, 11:18 AM
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Originally Posted by Tom
I believe I used the term terrorist Kenyan Pile of Krap.
I did not call his with a fat cow.
Not saying I didn't THINK it.
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I never called Michelle a fat cow either.
I do admit to calling her well fed ...
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11-23-2018, 01:01 PM
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Originally Posted by Tom
I believe I used the term terrorist Kenyan Pile of Krap.
I did not call his with a fat cow.
Not saying I didn't THINK it.
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This is what you said
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And McCain served the US himself, unlike the Kenyan Pile of Krap who wanted to fundamentally change it. It had nothing to do with his color, it had to do with the fact that he is/was a sniveling POS anti-American coward.
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We forgot you also called him a "sniveling POS anti-American coward. "
Somehow I do not feel at all that bad calling our current "sniveling POS anti-American coward" Chumpy
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11-23-2018, 02:19 PM
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Originally Posted by lamboguy
i would say there is very little doubt that Putin fixed the presidential election. the question is did Trump know ahead of time?
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Agree that the Russians might have tried to meddle in the election,but might not agree that they succeeded in having any effect in the outcome.
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11-23-2018, 02:30 PM
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Originally Posted by jk3521
Agree that the Russians might have tried to meddle in the election,but might not agree that they succeeded in having any effect in the outcome.
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According to our intel agencies THEY ABSOLUTELY TRIED.
Bob Mueller will tell us how much they succeeded with or without Trump's taem.
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11-23-2018, 02:48 PM
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Originally Posted by hcap
According to our intel agencies THEY ABSOLUTELY TRIED.
Bob Mueller will tell us how much they succeeded with or without Trump's taem.
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Tried doesn't mean it was successful, I try to break 80 everytime I golf but can't do it
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11-23-2018, 02:54 PM
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if this election wasn't fixed, why would this congress give Muelller carte blanche to investigate it so long. he must have spent tens of millions so far. maybe it wasn't fixed and Trump just won this election with his looks!
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11-23-2018, 02:56 PM
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Originally Posted by hcap
According to our intel agencies THEY ABSOLUTELY TRIED.
Bob Mueller will tell us how much they succeeded with or without Trump's taem.
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This is the first time they tried, huh?
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11-23-2018, 02:59 PM
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Originally Posted by azeri98
Tried doesn't mean it was successful.
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And even though I might not believe the Trump campaign conspired with the Russians, I doubt that they would have done anything to stop it ...and neither would the Clinton team do anything to stop it. It's part of Politics, win at any cost. Just get in office, then deal with it. Which is what Trump is doing.
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11-23-2018, 02:59 PM
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Originally Posted by azeri98
Tried doesn't mean it was successful, I try to break 80 everytime I golf but can't do it
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I objected to the assumption...
The Russians dd not try
There was NO SUCCESSFUL MEDDLING.
That has yet to be determined, although quite a few ex-intel officers and reports of abuses by social media point indeed to some success.
What is important to understand is Trump barely won the electoral college by less than 80,000 in only 3 states. But lost the popular vote by almost 3 MILLION.
This issue is not going away soon.
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