The coronavirus

[woodtoo]

Originally Posted by 46zilzal

Phenylpropanolamine, USED to be a common ingredient in cold meds as it is sympathomimetic and caused constriction of blood vessels in the nasal mucosa...Some marketing "genius" discovered that it is also a catecholamine (relative of the amphetamine group and the ephedrine group) so it has very weak forces in retarding appetite...It was really funny to find meds with the same exact milligram amount of these sold as decongestants for let's say $4 and then right down the counter see the exact same chemical in a WEIGHT LOSS preparation (same dosage) for over $10.00.

On the markets since the 40's, the FDA finally put out a warning in November 2000 and then removed it altogether in 2005 due to an increasing number of strokes reported in YOUNGER people (18 to 49). The fact that it is also used as a precursor in illicit amphetamine production was another factor in its withdrawal.

Here was a drug that NEVER went through the rigorous controlled testing, on the market for years, before significant vascular side effects only came to the attention of the FDA from medical feedback in the community. Being an OTC it was never put through the rigors of regular efficacy studies and consequently the population was put at risk.

That has nothing at all to do with the topic, you are just spouting your mouth off. Trying to appear educated.

[46zilzal]

No just the suggestion, from personal experience, that there are few safeguards in untested pharmaceuticals.

One of my patients suffered side effects from this drug

[PaceAdvantage]

Originally Posted by 46zilzal

No just the suggestion, from personal experience, that there are few safeguards in untested pharmaceuticals.

One of my patients suffered side effects from this drug

A drug that's been prescribed by medical professionals for 20 years is hardly untested.

[tucker6]

Originally Posted by PaceAdvantage

A drug that's been prescribed by medical professionals for 20 years is hardly untested.

20????? Chloroquine has been around since 1944 to fight malaria among the troops in SE Asia.

[PaceAdvantage]

Your daily dose of common sense...this guy is my hero:

YouTube

I'm very grateful this virus targets the old, because had it targeted the stupid, we would have been left with no humanity.

[biggestal99]

Originally Posted by PaceAdvantage

A drug that's been prescribed by medical professionals for 20 years is hardly untested.

But not on COVID patients,of course.

That is a book that is waiting to be written.

Allan

[46zilzal]

Some drugs, like the beta blockers, gain therapeutic breadth when a particular SIDE EFFECT pops up that is efficacious when it was NOT the original intent of the medication.

[xtb]

Originally Posted by biggestal99

Here are the side effects of this “safe” drug.

“Nausea, vomiting, loss of appetite, diarrhea, dizziness, or headache may occur. If any of these effects last or get worse, tell your doctor or pharmacist promptly.

Remember that your doctor has prescribed this medication because he or she has judged that the benefit to you is greater than the risk of side effects. Many people using this medication do not have serious side effects.

Tell your doctor right away if you have any serious side effects, including: slow heartbeat, symptoms of heart failure (such as shortness of breath, swelling ankles/feet, unusual tiredness, unusual/sudden weight gain), mental/mood changes (such as anxiety, depression, rare thoughts of suicide, hallucinations), hearing changes (such as ringing in the ears, hearing loss), easy bruising/bleeding, signs of infection (such as sore throat that doesn't go away, fever), signs of liver disease (such as severe stomach/abdominal pain, yellowing eyes/skin, dark urine), muscle weakness, unwanted/uncontrolled movements (including tongue/face twitching), hair loss, hair/skin color changes.

This medication may cause low blood sugar (hypoglycemia). Tell your doctor right away if you develop symptoms of low blood sugar, such as sudden sweating, shaking, hunger, blurred vision, dizziness, or tingling hands/feet. If you have diabetes, be sure to check your blood sugars regularly. Your doctor may need to adjust your diabetes medication.

Get medical help right away if you have any very serious side effects, including: severe dizziness, fainting, fast/irregular heartbeat, seizures.

This medication may cause serious eye/vision problems. The risk for these side effects is increased with long-term use of this medication and with taking this medication in high doses. Get medical help right away if you have any symptoms of serious eye problems, including: sensitivity to light, vision changes (such as light flashes/streaks, blurred vision, difficulty reading, missing areas of vision).

A very serious allergic reaction to this drug is rare. However, get medical help right away if you notice any symptoms of a serious allergic reaction, including: rash, itching/swelling (especially of the face/tongue/throat), dizziness, trouble breathing.

This is not a complete list of possible side effects. If you notice other effects not listed above, contact your doctor or pharmacist.“

Here are the side effects of aspirin, they sound just as bad or worse than hydroxychoroquine.

• Abdominal or stomach pain, cramping, or burning
• black, tarry stools
• bloody or cloudy urine
• change in consciousness
• chest pain or discomfort
• confusion
• constipation
• convulsions, severe or continuing
• dark urine
• decreased frequency or amount of urine
• diarrhea
• difficult breathing
• drowsiness
• fainting
• fast breathing
• feeling that something terrible will happen
• fever
• general tiredness and weakness
• greatly decreased frequency of urination or amount of urine
• headache
• heartburn
• increased thirst
• indigestion
• irregular heartbeat
• light-colored stools
• loss of appetite
• loss of consciousness
• lower back or side pain
• muscle cramping and weakness
• muscle tremors
• nausea or vomiting
• nervousness
• numbness or tingling in the hands, feet, or lips
• panic
• rapid, deep breathing
• restlessness
• seizures
• skin rash
• stomach cramps
• swelling of the face, fingers, or lower legs
• unusual bleeding or bruising
• unusual tiredness or weakness
• vomiting of blood or material that looks like coffee grounds
• weakness or heaviness of the legs
• weight gain
• yellow eyes and skin

[46zilzal]

As stated LEGAL man comes in a writes those widespread side effects for a C.Y.A. Many are so uncommon as to be almost nonexistent.

[xtb]

Originally Posted by 46zilzal

As stated LEGAL man comes in a writes those widespread side effects for a C.Y.A. Many are so uncommon as to be almost nonexistent.

Exactly

[thaskalos]

Originally Posted by xtb

Here are the side effects of aspirin, they sound just as bad or worse than hydroxychoroquine.

• Abdominal or stomach pain, cramping, or burning
• black, tarry stools
• bloody or cloudy urine
• change in consciousness
• chest pain or discomfort
• confusion
• constipation
• convulsions, severe or continuing
• dark urine
• decreased frequency or amount of urine
• diarrhea
• difficult breathing
• drowsiness
• fainting
• fast breathing
• feeling that something terrible will happen
• fever
• general tiredness and weakness
• greatly decreased frequency of urination or amount of urine
• headache
• heartburn
• increased thirst
• indigestion
• irregular heartbeat
• light-colored stools
• loss of appetite
• loss of consciousness
• lower back or side pain
• muscle cramping and weakness
• muscle tremors
• nausea or vomiting
• nervousness
• numbness or tingling in the hands, feet, or lips
• panic
• rapid, deep breathing
• restlessness
• seizures
• skin rash
• stomach cramps
• swelling of the face, fingers, or lower legs
• unusual bleeding or bruising
• unusual tiredness or weakness
• vomiting of blood or material that looks like coffee grounds
• weakness or heaviness of the legs
• weight gain
• yellow eyes and skin

JESUS!! And they prescribe aspirin to all the heart patients?

[JustRalph]

Originally Posted by JustRalph

What about these?

ringing in your ears, confusion, hallucinations, rapid breathing, seizure (convulsions); severe nausea, vomiting, or stomach pain; bloody or tarry stools, coughing up blood or vomit that looks like coffee grounds; fever lasting longer than 3 days;

I was going the aspirin route too... but was going to reveal it after viewing some comments.....

[46zilzal]

Originally Posted by JustRalph

I was going the aspirin route too... but was going to reveal it after viewing some comments.....

MOST of those are DOSE related...a salient fact they seem to leave out AND the personal dose/response curve of each one of us is different.

[46zilzal]

Utah representative Ben McAdams is reportedly doing better, after contracting the coronavirus.

[PaceAdvantage]

Originally Posted by 46zilzal

Utah representative Ben McAdams is reportedly doing better, after contracting the coronavirus.

Most people do recover. The number is probably around 99%+