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02-15-2017, 10:20 PM
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Originally Posted by Mr. Pick 5
Board Manipulation 101...this happens at many tracks not just penn and has been going on for quite some time....the accolades your profile boasts of make it seem like youve been around the game for a while, but your shock of the antics at penn makes it seem like you started betting last week  |
Have YOU been playing this game long?
You tone in a prior post gave the impression that you were one of the "youngsters" around here.
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02-15-2017, 10:27 PM
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#152
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Originally Posted by thaskalos
Have YOU been playing this game long?
You tone in a prior post gave the impression that you were one of the "youngsters" around here.
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I've been playing horses for 10 years and follow them on a daily basis....last year I put close to 100k through the windows....I've been alive for 6 figure scores and 6 dollar consolations....I done seen it all 
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02-15-2017, 10:35 PM
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#153
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Originally Posted by Mr. Pick 5
I've been playing horses for 10 years and follow them on a daily basis.... last year I put close to 100k through the windows....I've been alive for 6 figure scores and 6 dollar consolations....I done seen it all |
Do you realize that some of us "sore old men losers" call this a slow MONTH?
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02-15-2017, 10:44 PM
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#154
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Originally Posted by thaskalos
Do you realize that some of us "sore old men losers" call this a slow MONTH?
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Hey I didn't call anyone names....I warned some were starting to act that way....and yea I couldn't agree more January and February could possibly be the worst horse months of the year....gulfstream isn't what it once was either....some may argue it's better than ever but I don't see it that way
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02-17-2017, 11:51 AM
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#155
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i see 4 tracks in the future New York Florida California Kentucky maybe 5 if some billionaire wants his own toy.
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02-17-2017, 12:09 PM
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#156
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Originally Posted by citygoat
i see 4 tracks in the future New York Florida California Kentucky maybe 5 if some billionaire wants his own toy.
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I don't see Emerald going away. Yes, I am biased  . They may become the 2nd tier track on the west coast after GG says goodbye.
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02-17-2017, 07:52 PM
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#157
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Originally Posted by EMD4ME
I don't see Emerald going away. Yes, I am biased . They may become the 2nd tier track on the west coast after GG says goodbye. |
The have casino money so near term they are fine.
I'm convinced with a few exceptions like SoCal any track without casino $$ will be gone within the decade.
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02-17-2017, 08:00 PM
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#158
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NoPoints4ME
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Originally Posted by SuperPickle
The have casino money so near term they are fine.
I'm convinced with a few exceptions like SoCal any track without casino $$ will be gone within the decade.
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They are a unique example.
They don't have slots. The Tribe pays them some peanuts per race, which comes out to so little but that forced that track to market and focus on horseracing.
What a unique concept, right? Field sizes up. Handle up 33% over 2 years ago. Great product too. Only thing missing is HDTV but Phil said they might consider that soon.
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02-17-2017, 08:06 PM
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Originally Posted by EMD4ME
They are a unique example.
They don't have slots. The Tribe pays them some peanuts per race, which comes out to so little but that forced that track to market and focus on horseracing.
What a unique concept, right? Field sizes up. Handle up 33% over 2 years ago. Great product too. Only thing missing is HDTV but Phil said they might consider that soon.
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The tribe would tell you its far from peanuts. They get seven figures in free money. Canterbury has more or less the same deal. And oddly enough both of them have some highest handle growth the last couple years?
Why? Because when you're not spending 80% of you time and money either running a casino or trying to get one you can actually create a successful racing product.
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02-17-2017, 08:23 PM
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And on the flip side, if you can be one of the tracks to do just enough right and weather the storm without casino infusion, you probably payout jackpot when the casino schemes all fall apart everywhere around you.
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02-17-2017, 08:35 PM
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NoPoints4ME
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Originally Posted by johnhannibalsmith
And on the flip side, if you can be one of the tracks to do just enough right and weather the storm without casino infusion, you probably payout jackpot when the casino schemes all fall apart everywhere around you.
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I like my Emerald, EXACTLY the way it is. I don't want those superjuicers invading and stupid prima dona jocks coming over.
It is the PERFECT product as is.
With that said, I'll probably be enjoying my last year of EMD as it is 
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02-17-2017, 09:04 PM
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#162
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Originally Posted by EMD4ME
I like my Emerald, EXACTLY the way it is. I don't want those superjuicers invading and stupid prima dona jocks coming over.
It is the PERFECT product as is.
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When is Emerald going? Is there any other racing in or around Seattle if Emerald is not going? I ask because I have to travel to Seattle for work March 8th - 10th. Was debating staying until the 11th if there was any live racing.
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02-17-2017, 09:21 PM
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Originally Posted by Track Phantom
When is Emerald going? Is there any other racing in or around Seattle if Emerald is not going? I ask because I have to travel to Seattle for work March 8th - 10th. Was debating staying until the 11th if there was any live racing.
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You are a month early, I believe. Pretty sure they start the first or second week of April.
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02-17-2017, 09:22 PM
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#164
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NoPoints4ME
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Originally Posted by Track Phantom
When is Emerald going? Is there any other racing in or around Seattle if Emerald is not going? I ask because I have to travel to Seattle for work March 8th - 10th. Was debating staying until the 11th if there was any live racing.
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I wish. April 8th...sigh
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02-17-2017, 10:26 PM
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#165
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Originally Posted by EMD4ME
I wish. April 8th...sigh
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If they are lucky. It sounds iffy already that HST will be ready for opening day later in April - we have had one of our worst winters in 30+ years. HST was 2 weeks late in opening for spring training, they've only been able to use the outer portion of the track at a gallop, etc.
Not sure how much better/worse Seattle fared with the weather, but I wouldn't be surprised if they struggle to get going as well
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