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Old 02-09-2004, 10:55 PM   #1
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Derby Candidate?

I've learned that not too many horses broke their maiden as a 3 year old and went on to win the Kentucky Derby.
Fusaichi Pegasus and Monarchos both broke their maiden in January, and Proud Clarion (1967) broke his in February.
Broker's Tip (1933) broke his maiden IN the Derby.

The reason I mention all this is because I was impressed with the race of a 3 year old named EDDINGTON.
He won a MSW on Saturday at Gulfstream....the third start of his career....AQU in Nov. and GP in Jan.
His pedigree is A+. He's by Unbridled out of a very classy Chief's Crown mare, and is in Mark Hennig's barn.

He may have defeated "nothing" in that race, but he did it effortlessly.
Did anyone happen to see the 6th at GP on Saturday?
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Old 02-09-2004, 11:10 PM   #2
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Re: Derby Candidate?

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I've learned that not too many horses broke their maiden as a 3 year old and went on to win the Kentucky Derby.
Fusaichi Pegasus and Monarchos both broke their maiden in January, and Proud Clarion (1967) broke his in February.
Broker's Tip (1933) broke his maiden IN the Derby.
You're missing a big one. Despite a decent juvenile campaign, Sir Barton's first three wins came in the Derby, Preakness, and Belmont.
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Old 02-11-2004, 12:04 PM   #3
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Was there. Have watched Eddington in all 3 of his races actually. Surprised he didn't win before this. He is a strong horse, well built and as you say, great breeding. I bet him all 3 times. The one I like even better from Hennig's barn is Play All Night (by Coronado's Quest out of Play All Day). Hennig seems to take his time getting the young ones out for their first race, especially the ones who have a real shot at something like these two. Play All Night broke his maiden on first try on I believe Dec 13.
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Old 02-11-2004, 01:22 PM   #4
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I'll keep tabs on Play All Night.
His dam is a Canadian Bred with mucho stamina in the family.
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Old 02-11-2004, 01:34 PM   #5
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Hehehe You figured it out. Actually in proper Brooklynese it's Outta da Money Al. It came out of a joke conversation with me and my goil, er girlfriend when we decided we should have racetrack names. On a note closer to the conversation though, Hennig actually has his own website for his horses. Not way advanced, but a good way to keep track of what he's up to

http://www.tlorehorses.com/trainers/hennig/main.cfm
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Old 02-11-2004, 03:42 PM   #6
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Bally's Las Vegas is quoting the following odds:

EDDINGTON - opened at 200-1 / Now 75-1
PLAY ALL NIGHT - opened at 200-1 / Now 500-1

If you like the latter, find a friend in Las Vegas to make the bet for you.

I'd like to be a fly on the wall in Hennig's barn.
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Old 02-11-2004, 03:46 PM   #7
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For my Derby horse, I look toward a horse that is unbeaten, has never been challenged, and is being seriously overlooked. I'm going with Cactus Ridge. Anyone have odds on him?
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Old 02-11-2004, 04:08 PM   #8
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On the plus side, he ran a fast time (nearly two seconds faster than Miss Coranado in the Grade II Davona Dale two races later.) My back of the envelope Beyer for Eddington would be about 103.

On the other hand, at the 3/16ths pole he looked like he'd win breezing, but he got tired mid-stretch and started ducking in. Bailey really had to work on him to get him to switch leads. When he finally did switch leads, he got a bit of a second wind and drew off nicely.

All in all it was a good effort, but not one of those eye-popping Look-at-this-horse-wouldja! kind of things. I feel most really top horses move more fluidly than this guy, but that's just based on one race. He's got talent for sure.
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Old 02-11-2004, 04:25 PM   #9
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Whirlaway,

I'd have to say it would be a bit lower than that, though most likely high 90s. The track was faster than I remeber seeing it for the whole meet on Sat and Sun. Horses were able to go to the rail and hold their speed unlike earlier in the meet. Looked like monday it was beginning to revert back though. Really screwed up my picks early and had to do a lot of reajusting.

mudnturf,

Would love to put a bet on him, but I'm thinking more for the future with Play All Night. They're bringing him along nicely, but I think it will be late summer before he really blossoms. Honestly I'd rather see this fellow have a nice career rather than have to face the abusive triple crown schedule and then retire at three. Right now if I had to pick for the Derby, I'd go with Second of June.
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Old 02-11-2004, 06:06 PM   #10
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103 for Eddington would give Maglia D'oro a 118 and Miss Coranodo an 85, which seems about right to me. Maglia ran huge and Miss Coranodo looked good despite slow time for the race.
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Old 02-11-2004, 06:31 PM   #11
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No CACTUS RIDGE on Bally's list of Derby candidates. And there are 263 horses on that list.

SECOND OF JUNE is listed at 10-1.....Much too short a price to take in FEBRUARY!

The complete list is at:
www.ballysraceandsports.com
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Old 02-11-2004, 06:33 PM   #12
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Whirlaway,

My figures for GP 2/7 look about like yours:


Eddington 103
M D'O 120
Miss Coronado 86
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Old 02-11-2004, 09:37 PM   #13
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For my Derby horse, I look toward a horse that is unbeaten, has never been challenged, and is being seriously overlooked. I'm going with Cactus Ridge. Anyone have odds on him?
Bubbles, save your $2 or take a shot on Tiger Heart...speculation now is just that...

http://www.drf.com/drfNewsArticle.do...9&subs=0&arc=1
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Old 02-12-2004, 12:24 AM   #14
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I like Lionheart at 15-1 and a small flyer Lucky Pulpit at 50-1
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Old 02-12-2004, 12:50 AM   #15
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I will be looking for fast improver who stepped up to and finished well in a MAJOR stakes competition last race prior to derby. I think RQ, FC, WE and other recent winners have done that.
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