TX elementary school mass shooting

[Tom]

We learned from past school shootings that doors need to be locked.
Well. not everyone it seems.
It sure looks like the only one who knew what he was doing that was the gunman. The school and law enforcement sure as hell screwed it up.

[OntheRail]

Originally Posted by elysiantraveller

What in the fuck are you talking about?

"Ghost guns?"

Tell me you're a idiot without telling me you're a idiot.

That's one of your boys talking points when it comes to gun control... you know the shit you've been spewing on about.

For someone who professes to be such a smart guy... often thinking he's the smartest one in the room... your quite the dumbass.

[boxcar]

Originally Posted by P.Rosa

The teacher left the entrance door to the school open, not the classroom door.

Correcto!

It’s not clear why the teacher propped open the door or didn’t close it after they saw the suspect crash.

OR...for that matter why was the school security officer M.I.A.?

McCraw said that there was also no school resource officer at the school, and he could not say why. The officer, he said, later responded when someone called 911.

https://www.theepochtimes.com/teache...1rCjF4H5syw%3D

Add to all this, once again...were there no security cameras at the entrances, exits, parking lots, etc. on the campus? If so, what story do they tell?

And yet...so many people on this thread seem to have zero concern that there has been a huge breach in school security; yet, there hadn't been, everyone would have been alive today. Yet, it's so much easier to have visceral reaction and blame guns. And we know there has been this breach of security because no names are being released. Who is this teacher who carelessly left an exterior door open? And who is this "resource officer" who was MIA? And why was he not there?

[PaceAdvantage]

Originally Posted by boxcar

Correcto!

It’s not clear why the teacher propped open the door or didn’t close it after they saw the suspect crash.

OR...for that matter why was the school security officer M.I.A.?

McCraw said that there was also no school resource officer at the school, and he could not say why. The officer, he said, later responded when someone called 911.

https://www.theepochtimes.com/teache...1rCjF4H5syw%3D

Add to all this, once again...were there no security cameras at the entrances, exits, parking lots, etc. on the campus? If so, what story do they tell?

And yet...so many people on this thread seem to have zero concern that there has been a huge breach in school security; yet, there hadn't been, everyone would have been alive today. Yet, it's so much easier to have visceral reaction and blame guns. And we know there has been this breach of security because no names are being released. Who is this teacher who carelessly left an exterior door open? And who is this "resource officer" who was MIA? And why was he not there?

American Values (or deValues as it is currently)

Nobody really gives a shit anymore, other than how many likes they are getting on social media

[boxcar]

Originally Posted by PaceAdvantage

American Values (or deValues as it is currently)

Nobody really gives a shit anymore, other than how many likes they are getting on social media

Those who seek the approval of the world place no value on God's approval.

[azeri98]

Sorry people, an 18 year old shouldn't have access to this type of weapon. I don't think anyone should . I have no issue with people having hand guns or hunting rifles. These weapons are designed for maximum damage, not for self defence

[Tom]

There are 4 school districts and only 2 officers.
Designed for failure.

[Elkchester Road]

Originally Posted by azeri98

Sorry people, an 18 year old shouldn't have access to this type of weapon. I don't think anyone should . I have no issue with people having hand guns or hunting rifles. These weapons are designed for maximum damage, not for self defence

Problem is...people who already have either obtained them either legally or illegally. Neither side is budging. This problem can be helped going forward...but no "Leader" is stepping out like that in an Election year. Not to mention...these "Leaders", and their families, are unaffected by these issues. They could give a Shit less.

[boxcar]

Originally Posted by azeri98

Sorry people, an 18 year old shouldn't have access to this type of weapon. I don't think anyone should . I have no issue with people having hand guns or hunting rifles. These weapons are designed for maximum damage, not for self defence

But an 18-year old is old enough to go into the military and die for his country, right? Old enough to drink? Old enough to drive? Old enough to be tried as an adult in a court of law?

[mrhorseplayer]

Originally Posted by azeri98

Sorry people, an 18 year old shouldn't have access to this type of weapon. I don't think anyone should . I have no issue with people having hand guns or hunting rifles. These weapons are designed for maximum damage, not for self defence

The constitution gives me the right to bare arms it doesnt say just for hunting and who are you to tell someone what kind or what they need a weapon for.

[Inner Dirt]

Originally Posted by azeri98

Sorry people, an 18 year old shouldn't have access to this type of weapon. I don't think anyone should . I have no issue with people having hand guns or hunting rifles. These weapons are designed for maximum damage, not for self defence

I always wonder why the AR-15 or similar is the weapon of choice in a confined space where someone wants to kill as many as possible. Is it the way they look? I believe even if you banned the sale of like weapons to civilians, these mass homicidal maniacs would just go to the next available weapon that can commit mass murder. A 9mm pistol with a 50 round drum

loaded with hollow points would be just as lethal or maybe worse. Would that be the weapon of choice for these sickos if whatever is called an assault rifle these days is no longer available?



For the record there are hunting rifles just as lethal or more lethal than the AR-15, they just aren't designed to hold high capacity magazines, are bolt, or lever action, and have tubular magazines, that typically hold 6-8 rounds.


Going after the legally owned gun is not a short term solution to an obvious mental health issue. There are still plenty of 18 century dueling pistols around in functioning condition, so many you can buy one for less than a S&W Model 29 with an 8" barrel, the Dirty Harry weapon of choice. Well maintained guns
can last for hundreds of years. How about some proactive actions to stop these homicidal maniacs before they act, most all of them left a trail of odd behavior and threats.

[PaceAdvantage]

Singling someone out for odd behavior these days is just bullying, and we can't have that.

This has truly become an ANYTHING GOES society...a NO JUDGEMENT society...

Hell, you see the pic Ralph posted in another thread of the NYC subway poster basically CELEBRATING illicit drug use.

There is no "wrong" anymore...everybody has been trained to LOOK THE OTHER WAY, lest you be singled out as a BULLY or BIGOT or RACIST or some sort of PHOBE...take your pick.

This is the way.

Deal with the consequences.

[Elkchester Road]

Originally Posted by PaceAdvantage

Singling someone out for odd behavior these days is just bullying, and we can't have that.

This has truly become an ANYTHING GOES society...a NO JUDGEMENT society...

Hell, you see the pic Ralph posted in another thread of the NYC subway poster basically CELEBRATING illicit drug use.

There is no "wrong" anymore...everybody has been trained to LOOK THE OTHER WAY, lest you be singled out as a BULLY or BIGOT or RACIST or some sort of PHOBE...take your pick.

This is the way.

Deal with the consequences.

Hard to argue this in current times.

[mrhorseplayer]

Originally Posted by Inner Dirt

I always wonder why the AR-15 or similar is the weapon of choice in a confined space where someone wants to kill as many as possible. Is it the way they look? I believe even if you banned the sale of like weapons to civilians, these mass homicidal maniacs would just go to the next available weapon that can commit mass murder. A 9mm pistol with a 50 round drum

loaded with hollow points would be just as lethal or maybe worse. Would that be the weapon of choice for these sickos if whatever is called an assault rifle these days is no longer available?



For the record there are hunting rifles just as lethal or more lethal than the AR-15, they just aren't designed to hold high capacity magazines, are bolt, or lever action, and have tubular magazines, that typically hold 6-8 rounds.


Going after the legally owned gun is not a short term solution to an obvious mental health issue. There are still plenty of 18 century dueling pistols around in functioning condition, so many you can buy one for less than a S&W Model 29 with an 8" barrel, the Dirty Harry weapon of choice. Well maintained guns
can last for hundreds of years. How about some proactive actions to stop these homicidal maniacs before they act, most all of them left a trail of odd behavior and threats.

wondered the same thing, maybe cause they were cheap or they look cool and easy to conceal.


my dad had a rifle .270 semi auto if he had a magazine this would be just as lethal or more.



just like they made the war on drugs , soon as that happened the streets get flooded with drugs cause the black market, same thing would happen with weapons only worse it would leave the usa or its citizens vulnerable.

[OntheRail]

Originally Posted by Inner Dirt

I always wonder why the AR-15 or similar is the weapon of choice in a confined space where someone wants to kill as many as possible. Is it the way they look? I believe even if you banned the sale of like weapons to civilians, these mass homicidal maniacs would just go to the next available weapon that can commit mass murder. A 9mm pistol with a 50 round drum

loaded with hollow points would be just as lethal or maybe worse. Would that be the weapon of choice for these sickos if whatever is called an assault rifle these days is no longer available?



For the record there are hunting rifles just as lethal or more lethal than the AR-15, they just aren't designed to hold high capacity magazines, are bolt, or lever action, and have tubular magazines, that typically hold 6-8 rounds.


Going after the legally owned gun is not a short term solution to an obvious mental health issue. There are still plenty of 18 century dueling pistols around in functioning condition, so many you can buy one for less than a S&W Model 29 with an 8" barrel, the Dirty Harry weapon of choice. Well maintained guns
can last for hundreds of years. How about some proactive actions to stop these homicidal maniacs before they act, most all of them left a trail of odd behavior and threats.

The AR is a relatively compact weapon for a rifle... making it ergonomically easier to handle and carry close to your body in tight confined areas. With a strap attached and adjusted properly it make retention if needed much more secure for the carrier. Recoil is minimal making controlled follow up shot quicker. These attribute make it an excellent choice for home defense and why many females like them.


Why is it the weapon of choice used by sick fucks... Media... Politicians...Demonize them. Video Games have made them sexy. Would be my guess.