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Old 03-19-2018, 01:50 PM   #16
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No he does not. Santa Anita isn't a governmental agency. He has no constitutional protection from action from a private party.

"The fist amendment is as overplayed as it is misapplied "
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Old 03-19-2018, 02:56 PM   #17
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Are not the stewards an arm of the State? ...........
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Old 03-19-2018, 02:59 PM   #18
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Are not the stewards an arm of the State? ...........
Your not allowed to threaten people in a Gov workplace as well without repercussions, why is this even a discussion?
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Old 03-19-2018, 09:53 PM   #19
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Your not allowed to threaten people in a Gov workplace as well without repercussions, why is this even a discussion?
Where does it say he threatened anybody? I’m not defending the guy, but if he as a contractor at the track wants to play the first amendment game and claim the “state” is infringing on his rights of free expression ........ he might get somewhere......in my opine
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Old 03-19-2018, 10:11 PM   #20
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I wonder what the late Mike Mitchell would have said to him or was he aware of his behavior back then?
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Old 03-20-2018, 11:08 AM   #21
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Where does it say he threatened anybody? I’m not defending the guy, but if he as a contractor at the track wants to play the first amendment game and claim the “state” is infringing on his rights of free expression ........ he might get somewhere......in my opine
No one will repeat what he said, it was that bad.

But hey, I am sure your right, he was probably just wishing her all the best.
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Old 03-20-2018, 11:18 AM   #22
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From the woman he offended

I withdrew my complaint from the CHRB because I wanted to move on and avoid any further animosity. There were other people who saw the incident and filed complaints.

But after reading that Pete still believes I went into his barn and “stole” his help, I have to say I’m glad he is getting the anger management help. I learned a lot from Pete and am thankful for opportunities I had while working for him, and would like to see him get the help he needs to control his temper
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Old 03-20-2018, 12:32 PM   #23
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No one will repeat what he said, it was that bad.

But hey, I am sure your right, he was probably just wishing her all the best.
Don’t put words in my mouth. Anytime an arm of the state or local government regulates speech, they are dancing around 1st Amendment issues.

School systems have the same problem
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Old 03-20-2018, 07:37 PM   #24
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this guy is a perfect reason why trainers should be limited in the amount of horses they can have on their rosters. there are some real super nice guys training like Todd Pletcher. the more i know of him, the more of a class act he is. Assmussen is also a top notch human being. both those guys that i just mentioned have photographic memories and lay over their field.
Ummmm....can't believe this quote from lambo failed to generate any responses...
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Ummmm....can't believe this quote from lambo failed to generate any responses...
I ran it through Babblefish and got nothing.
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Old 11-21-2018, 09:02 AM   #26
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He has a decent first Amendment argument if he wants to play that game
First Amendment does not apply here. That only protects him from being arrested or punished by the U.S. government. The CHRB can protect it's people from abuse.
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Old 11-21-2018, 11:54 AM   #27
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Are not the stewards an arm of the State? ...........
The stewards are not an "arm of the state" nor a govt. agency, anymore than the NFL or NBA are. They have a right to regulate conduct in their sport.
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Old 11-21-2018, 12:01 PM   #28
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this guy is a perfect reason why trainers should be limited in the amount of horses they can have on their rosters. there are some real super nice guys training like Todd Pletcher. the more i know of him, the more of a class act he is. Assmussen is also a top notch human being. both those guys that i just mentioned have photographic memories and lay over their field.
You are contradicting yourself here. First you say that trainers should be limited in the amount of horses in their roster and then praise Pletcher and Asmussen who have the 2 largest strings in the sport. In addition, they may be " super nice guys" but both have been penalized for being caught using PEDs.

I'm assuming this post is a joke.
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Impressed with this statement. People can change????
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