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03-18-2018, 03:45 PM
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#376
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Originally Posted by thaskalos
What "new fan"?
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All the "sports bettors" that are going to wager on horse racing when it becomes legal.
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03-18-2018, 04:05 PM
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#377
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Originally Posted by jay68802
All the "sports bettors" that are going to wager on horse racing when it becomes legal.
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Don't you mean it the other way around?
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03-18-2018, 05:31 PM
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#378
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Originally Posted by dilanesp
The fact that late money is smart money is a big reason to do something about large wagers near post time. They are obviously creating an information asymmetry by betting at the last second.
The fundamental problem has got to be that the tracks don't want to lose this handle. If that were not the case there are things that could be done.
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Typical horse player mentality would be to think that the later I bet, the more it improves my chances.
It only improves your chances if you have a way to improve your selections late.
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03-18-2018, 05:44 PM
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#379
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At this point it might be more fair if nobody knew the odds until pools were closed.
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03-18-2018, 05:50 PM
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Originally Posted by Dave Schwartz
Typical horse player mentality would be to think that the later I bet, the more it improves my chances.
It only improves your chances if you have a way to improve your selections late.
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IMO...the average horseplayer would benefit greatly if he waited until the last seconds to place his bets. He would save a ton of money by repeatedly getting shut out of the wagering.
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03-18-2018, 06:02 PM
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Originally Posted by thaskalos
Don't you mean it the other way around?
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You are correct, I was Posting Under The Influence again.
Quote:
Originally Posted by Dave Schwartz
Typical horse player mentality would be to think that the later I bet, the more it improves my chances.
It only improves your chances if you have a way to improve your selections late.
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And if you did not catch the 11th at GP today you missed a easy one that paid 4-1. It ended up taking 16% of the last dump.
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03-21-2018, 04:20 PM
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This one was as bad as I've seen in a while, and of course the horse won.
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03-21-2018, 04:47 PM
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I don't have the pp's for that , but the horse was 15-1 on the ML , won last, and was ridden by an Ortiz.
Clearly , some serious steam there.
But plenty of those lose, just never get mentioned. So it leaves the impression that big betdowns are locks.
Some big bettors find out that the horse is 110% and they send it in. Just a matter of how much they want to crush their own odds.
Last edited by AltonKelsey; 03-21-2018 at 04:49 PM.
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03-21-2018, 05:03 PM
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Originally Posted by AltonKelsey
I don't have the pp's for that , but the horse was 15-1 on the ML , won last, and was ridden by an Ortiz.
Clearly , some serious steam there.
But plenty of those lose, just never get mentioned. So it leaves the impression that big betdowns are locks.
Some big bettors find out that the horse is 110% and they send it in. Just a matter of how much they want to crush their own odds.
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That’s not steam. That’s Ortiz’s uncle paying for his new BMW. . .
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03-21-2018, 08:10 PM
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Originally Posted by Lafecs
That’s not steam. That’s Ortiz’s uncle paying for his new BMW. . .
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Could be, I know I was born into the wrong family, no jockeys.
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03-21-2018, 09:01 PM
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Originally Posted by cj
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Took 43.4 percent of the money from when they put the 1st horse in the gate. Or 7/5.
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03-21-2018, 09:24 PM
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we live in a capitalistic country. if you don't like the rules that the racing authorities want to offer, don't accept them. move on caveat emptor.
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03-21-2018, 10:33 PM
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And posters here claim its not a problem and that they can predict it........
Im so glad to be back on Betfair.
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03-22-2018, 01:40 AM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by acorn54
we live in a capitalistic country. if you don't like the rules that the racing authorities want to offer, don't accept them. move on caveat emptor.
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Sadly, many people have moved on.
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03-22-2018, 05:54 AM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by acorn54
we live in a capitalistic country. if you don't like the rules that the racing authorities want to offer, don't accept them. move on caveat emptor.
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Great attitude that has served the industry so well.
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