The coronavirus

[Greyfox]

Originally Posted by woodtoo

Suicides now outnumber covid19 deaths after extended lock down.

That was predictable.
The only people who should have been locked down were the vulnerable elderly in nursing homes.
Seniors and those with pre-existing conditions should have been advised to stay home, not commandeered to.
Otherwise, anyone under 65 should have been told to go about their regular business.
With respect to Suicide, that problem increases when people feel hopeless.
When you take away any adults right to choose, you can expect suicide rates to increase.
Typically, in war time, such as WWII, suicide rates decrease.
That's partly because citizens felt that they were all together fighting a common foe. They chose to do that!
Telling large sectors of any population "Your non-essential!" is bound to send some people into depressive cycles.
A formula for suicide?
Feeling Non-essential + Limited Choice + Loss (Income) = >Hopelessness + Suicides

See--> https://www.researchgate.net/publica...the_world_wars

[jimmyb]

Originally Posted by hcap

I live in rural nortwest New York State. For the most part the cases and fatalities are now dropping on both commie, socialist infected leftest coasts. It is moving mostly into the Midwest and southern states. And this is only the first wave. Most epidemiologists expect 2, possibly more.

Better move everyone out of Nursing Homes, pronto

[Tom]

Originally Posted by incoming

I disagree with your outlook for the length of recovery in America.
I do agree that the America that you live in will be the slowest to recover by a wide margin. You live in the most densely populated part of America controlled by the most left wing part of our government.

"Dense" in more ways than one!

[Tom]

Originally Posted by woodtoo

Suicides now outnumber covid19 deaths after extended lock down.

Deaths of devastation predicted to outnumber COVID deaths.

[hcap]

Originally Posted by Greyfox

That was predictable.
The only people who should have been locked down were the vulnerable elderly in nursing homes.
Seniors and those with pre-existing conditions should have been advised to stay home, not commandeered to.
Otherwise, anyone under 65 should have been told to go about their regular business.
With respect to Suicide, that problem increases when people feel hopeless.
When you take away any adults right to choose, you can expect suicide rates to increase.
Typically, in war time, such as WWII, suicide rates decrease.
That's partly because citizens felt that they were all together fighting a common foe. They chose to do that!
Telling large sectors of any population "Your non-essential!" is bound to send some people into depressive cycles.
A formula for suicide?
Feeling Non-essential + Limited Choice + Loss (Income) = >Hopelessness + Suicides

See--> https://www.researchgate.net/publica...the_world_wars

You, nor any other pandemic denier here can support this very bogus claim,

Originally Posted by woodtoo

Suicides now outnumber covid19 deaths after extended lock down.

.......evidentially pulled out of someone's rear end. Yes, stressful times do awful things, but whomever pulled that out of their butts, should ponder whether or not the the pandemic itself, or the "lock down" is what is causing the stress..

Your link was published in 1994, way before the current situation.

[Greyfox]

Originally Posted by hcap

You, nor any other pandemic denier here can support this very bogus claim,

1. I am not a pandemic denier
2. The stats for WWII have not changed since 1945
3. You have a warped pitiable disposition - I feel sorry for you.
Other than that, good to see that you weren't booted.

I repeat:

A formula for suicide?
Feeling Non-essential + Limited Choice + Loss (Income) = >Hopelessness + Suicides

[Track Collector]

Originally Posted by woodtoo

The curve is flattened, now lets flatten the FEAR!!!

I like that phrase!

[woodtoo]

Originally Posted by Greyfox

That was predictable.
The only people who should have been locked down were the vulnerable elderly in nursing homes.
Seniors and those with pre-existing conditions should have been advised to stay home, not commandeered to.
Otherwise, anyone under 65 should have been told to go about their regular business.
With respect to Suicide, that problem increases when people feel hopeless.
When you take away any adults right to choose, you can expect suicide rates to increase.
Typically, in war time, such as WWII, suicide rates decrease.
That's partly because citizens felt that they were all together fighting a common foe. They chose to do that!
Telling large sectors of any population "Your non-essential!" is bound to send some people into depressive cycles.
A formula for suicide?
Feeling Non-essential + Limited Choice + Loss (Income) = >Hopelessness + Suicides

See--> https://www.researchgate.net/publica...the_world_wars

Excellent post filled with common sense, something extremely lacking in many these days.

[woodtoo]

Originally Posted by Track Collector

I like that phrase!

Resist we must!

[hcap]

Originally Posted by Greyfox

1. I am not a pandemic denier
2. The stats for WWII have not changed since 1945
3. You have a warped pitiable disposition - I feel sorry for you.
Other than that, good to see that you weren't booted.

I repeat:

A formula for suicide?
Feeling Non-essential + Limited Choice + Loss (Income) = >Hopelessness + Suicides

Do you agree with this stupid statement?

Suicides now outnumber covid19 deaths after extended lock down.

If you do, I feel extremely sorry for you and your fellow pandemic deniers and minimizers.

Minimizers. Like you and your buddies. Who are shouting look over here instead of the crux of the problem.

United States
Coronavirus Cases:
1,630,519
Deaths:
96,943

[Greyfox]

Originally Posted by hcap

Do you agree with this stupid statement?

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1. I am not a pandemic denier.

2. No. That number is too high.

3. A rise in Suicide Deaths would be predictable for the reasons I mentioned.

[PaceAdvantage]

Originally Posted by hcap

This was one of your first "herd immunity" celebrations. Very early in the pandemic 3/31/2020 Today, not quite 2 months later, if you go to the site I linked, you will see at the end of March, early April, 30 people had died,

Told you then, it was just beginning there. Today an update...

https://www.worldometers.info/corona...ountry/mexico/

Coronavirus Cases:
59,567
Deaths:
6,510

Brazil is even worse.



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So half the population wasn't wiped out in a matter of months?

[PaceAdvantage]

Suicides could be up nearly 25x normal if we believe some anecdotal evidence being reported.

When you lock people down, take away their jobs/businesses, stress them out with store shelves being empty, then toss all these FEAR INDUCING headlines at them...what do you think is going to happen?

This will push people vulnerable to suicide right over the edge...literally.

I keep telling everyone they have ZERO CLUE what the results of all this will be...some really terrible shit that nobody has even thought of (economically speaking especially) will be the routine in the coming months and years.

[woodtoo]

the heat is on.06-NY-Lockdown-LI-600.jpg

[Tom]

Originally Posted by Track Collector

I like that phrase!

Let's flatten hcap!