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Old 04-21-2012, 08:28 PM   #1021
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I with Boxy. I want to see justice prevail. And that might mean that Zimmerman walks.
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Old 04-21-2012, 08:48 PM   #1022
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I with Boxy. I want to see justice prevail. And that might mean that Zimmerman walks.
Lefty, I've always liked you, but two things in what you said.

1) Boxy has no interest in justice prevailing.

2) Anyone who says they are interested in seeing justice prevail cannot then say they have a predetermined outcome that equals justice. Until you or I have seen the evidence presented at trial, we don't know what the outcome should be.
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Old 04-21-2012, 08:58 PM   #1023
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lsbets, that's correct. But if it is as Zimmerman says, then he's not guilty.
If it's not as he says, and he was out to shoot that boy, then he's guilty.
But get this, someone who is wearing a hoody in the dark of night, how do you determine it's just a kid?
How do you determine if he's unarmed?
And remember, Zimmerman was on neighborhood watch and there had been a series of break-ins.
And if the picture of Zimmerman's bloody head is real-it weighs heavily in his favor.

BTW, i've always liked you too, sir.
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Old 04-21-2012, 09:21 PM   #1024
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2) Anyone who says they are interested in seeing justice prevail cannot then say they have a predetermined outcome that equals justice.
What manner of psycho-babble is this? I have a "predetermined outcome"?

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Old 04-22-2012, 12:14 AM   #1025
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And the hospital or doctor who treated him didn't document his treatment?

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The doctor will fix him up. Then, there would be no record of all the blood. A bloody picture could sway a jury better than a doctor's statement.
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Old 04-22-2012, 10:39 AM   #1026
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The doctor will fix him up. Then, there would be no record of all the blood. A bloody picture could sway a jury better than a doctor's statement.
You have a point there. A picture is worth a thousand words and all that stuff.

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Old 04-22-2012, 10:40 AM   #1027
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Zimmerman is afraid he will be in danger if he gets out on bail.
You mean, he could be walking down the street, minding his own business, and possibly end up dead?

How could that ever happen?
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Old 04-22-2012, 10:45 AM   #1028
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Zimmerman is afraid he will be in danger if he gets out on bail.
You mean, he could be walking down the street, minding his own business, and possibly end up dead?

How could that ever happen?
Certainly not in the same way that it happened to Martin. I don't see Zimm taking any plunges into unknown waters.

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Old 04-22-2012, 10:59 AM   #1029
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Guess he doesn't like Skittles, huh?
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Old 04-22-2012, 11:23 AM   #1030
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Guess he doesn't like Skittles, huh?
Probably doesn't like initiating physical assaults upon people very much either.

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P.S. By the way, those Skittles were supposedly for Martin's 14-yo brother.
And that 7-11 vid is having one very slow coming out party.
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Old 04-22-2012, 12:36 PM   #1031
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Maybe I'm wrong, but from what I've read the ONLY thing that matters here is Zimmerman's story of self-defense holding up.

As long as the prosecution can not PROVE that Zimmerman was not at an actual physical risk of severe injury or death then Zimmerman should face NO legal repercussions.

things that don't matter:
  • what zimmerman thought or felt
  • what zimmerman said on the 911 call
  • whether zimmerman racially profiled martin
  • zimmerman's past
  • martin's past
  • ANY other racially motivated event in the history of the world
  • anything else
The ONLY thing that should matter is Zimmerman's story and the self-defense law.
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Old 04-22-2012, 01:17 PM   #1032
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Maybe I'm wrong, but from what I've read the ONLY thing that matters here is Zimmerman's story of self-defense holding up.

As long as the prosecution can not PROVE that Zimmerman was not at an actual physical risk of severe injury or death then Zimmerman should face NO legal repercussions.

things that don't matter:
  • what zimmerman thought or felt
  • what zimmerman said on the 911 call
  • whether zimmerman racially profiled martin
  • zimmerman's past
  • martin's past
  • ANY other racially motivated event in the history of the world
  • anything else
The ONLY thing that should matter is Zimmerman's story and the self-defense law.
Gross exaggeration. For example, whatever Zimm "thought or felt" prompted him to act. And the 911 call is a very important piece of evidence -- that seems to go in Zimm's favor, incidentally. But you are right in that if we were to distill this case down to the lowest common denominator, the entire case swings on two hinges: Who initiated the physical assault and was deadly force necessary. Since there are, apparently, no eyewitnesses who can address either of these two issues, the State has a very tough road to hoe. (And we've already have seen how tough with the state's pathetically weak Probable Cause Affidavit, which the prosecutor submitted to the court.) It'll essentially be the state's forensic and circumstantial evidence and hypotheses against the word of the last man standing and the defense's forensic and circumstantial evidence, as well.

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Old 04-22-2012, 02:17 PM   #1033
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More Questions

Will Spike Lee become a private detective or do a skittles commercial?
Why didn't GZ shoot TM more than once?
Why didn't Trayvon Martin's father report him missing?
Will there be a change of venue?
With a change of venue can you imagine "Boxcar" as a member of the jury?
If the jury were sequestered, how would "Boxcar" handle blogger withdrawal?
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Old 04-22-2012, 02:25 PM   #1034
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Will Spike Lee become a private detective or do a skittles commercial?
Why didn't GZ shoot TM more than once?
Why didn't Trayvon Martin's father report him missing?
Will there be a change of venue?
With a change of venue can you imagine "Boxcar" as a member of the jury?
If the jury were sequestered, how would "Boxcar" handle blogger withdrawal?
I probably would never get chosen to sit with a jury on a case like that. Evangelical Christians get rejected from serving far more often than not. And that makes sense since the world doesn't like our bible-based value system.

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Old 04-22-2012, 03:06 PM   #1035
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I probably would never get chosen to sit with a jury on a case like that. Evangelical Christians get rejected from serving far more often than not. And that makes sense since the world doesn't like our bible-based value system.

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Just remember if and when you find yourself signing all the necessary legal documents jurors must sign, to sign MORE than once in case they forget who you are

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