Curious......

[coachv30]

I am starting to put more emphasis on race conditions and this one has me confused. How does this horse qualify for this race? The conditions seem pretty cut and dry (NW $6000L5 or NW $13,000L10)..there are no other AE conditions mentioned.

[titans1127]

I had to actually go to the Standardbred Canada website to find your answer. I looked at next Saturday's condition sheet which has the class in question on it and at the bottom it lists all the different allowances based on age and sex. What I found is this:

4 YR OLDS ALLOWED
25% ON 2018 EARNINGS.

Sounds like since this horse has only made 4 starts this year, the last 6 from last year get the 25% allowance which somehow gets factored into the base condition. No idea how the math works out but this is likely the reason. Really something that should be added to the program so anyone looking can make sense of it

[coachv30]

Originally Posted by titans1127

I had to actually go to the Standardbred Canada website to find your answer. I looked at next Saturday's condition sheet which has the class in question on it and at the bottom it lists all the different allowances based on age and sex. What I found is this:

4 YR OLDS ALLOWED
25% ON 2018 EARNINGS.

Sounds like since this horse has only made 4 starts this year, the last 6 from last year get the 25% allowance which somehow gets factored into the base condition. No idea how the math works out but this is likely the reason. Really something that should be added to the program so anyone looking can make sense of it

Thanks....it would take a genius to decipher all of that in the PP's.

[jay68802]

Started adding age restrictions as a factor in adjusting speed figures, seems I am getting somewhere on this. the reason I did this was because I am not a genius.

[Sea Biscuit]

Originally Posted by coachv30

I am starting to put more emphasis on race conditions and this one has me confused. How does this horse qualify for this race? The conditions seem pretty cut and dry (NW $6000L5 or NW $13,000L10)..there are no other AE conditions mentioned.

Coach It has nothing to do with the age of the horse. Jangone is a mare racing against aged geldings, and on the Ont circuit mares get an allowance of 25% in the conditions of the race. For her the conditions should read


NW 7500 L5 or NW 16250 L 10


She qualifies on the 2nd condition ie NW 16250 L10


I hope this helps.

[coachv30]

Originally Posted by Sea Biscuit

Coach It has nothing to do with the age of the horse. Jangone is a mare racing against aged geldings, and on the Ont circuit mares get an allowance of 25% in the conditions of the race. For her the conditions should read


NW 7500 L5 or NW 16250 L 10


She qualifies on the 2nd condition ie NW 16250 L10


I hope this helps.

Thanks SB....it does help. Does that 25% remain a standard for all conditions such as NW 3 2019 or NW 8 Lifetime. Because I saw an entry in a race with these condition who had 3 wins this year and 12 lifetime wins.

[Sea Biscuit]

Originally Posted by coachv30

Thanks SB....it does help. Does that 25% remain a standard for all conditions such as NW 3 2019 or NW 8 Lifetime. Because I saw an entry in a race with these condition who had 3 wins this year and 12 lifetime wins.

This rule applies to races where there is dollar amount specified to it.


Such as NW 5000 L5 or NW 12000 L10

[coachv30]

What qualifies these three horses?

[Sea Biscuit]

Originally Posted by coachv30

What qualifies these three horses?

Please read the following rules for the Ontario circuit


Allowances for 2,3 4 yr olds in Ontario

Ontario has allowances on earnings for 2, 3 & 4 year olds.

A 2 year old can deduct 60% of the current season earnings when calculating their Lifetime earnings.

A 3 year olds can deduct 25% of the current season earnings and 50% of their previous season (2 yo) earnings.

A 4 year old can deduct 25% of their 3 yo earnings.

This allows horses that have earned money in age restricted stake races to be classified in a way that they theoretically would be more competitive when they race against older horses.


2 year old in conditioned races 60% on current year earnings

3 yr Olds in conditioned races 25% on current year earnings
50% on last year earnings

4 yr Olds in conditioned races NIL on current year earnings
25% on last year earnings

[coachv30]

I got it....thanks SB!

[thespaah]

Originally Posted by coachv30

What qualifies these three horses?

The operative word in the conditions is "OR"....NW of 3PM OR $50k lifetime..And again, According to the post above, ON racing rules permit an allowance for fillies and mares of 25%....So, for fillies and mares competing in open company, $50k is actually $62.5k and for wins, 3 PM is actually 4PM races life.
ONce again, pay attention to the "OR".