Biden has tested positive for Covid

[Marshall Bennett]

Originally Posted by JustRalph

God forbid he dies.

Kamala is probably doing a rain dance

I can't stand her either, but at least she has a working brain and may be able to be manipulated, She's after-all not very bright. Also she can be held accountable for failure, where as Creepy Joe's legacy will add a (*) to s footnote as being handicapped.

[boxcar]

Originally Posted by Marshall Bennett

I can't stand her either, but at least she has a working brain and may be able to be manipulated, She's after-all not very bright. Also she can be held accountable for failure, where as Creepy Joe's legacy will add a (*) to s footnote as being handicapped.

That's very debatable.

[xtb]

This could be the exit ramp those in charge will steer Joe towards. Commie Kamala is a dimwit but isn't likely to take orders from the Easter Bunny so this shit show could implode spectacularly.

[Jeff P]

So let me get this straight...

1. Back in April Vice President Harris tested positive after a regimen of two shots and two boosters.

2. In June Dr. Anthony Fauci came down with not one but two cases of symptomatic Covid after a regimen of two shots and two boosters.

3. Within the past 24 hours the White House announced President Biden has mild Covid symptoms after a regimen of two shots and two boosters.

That's four Covid cases among three top US government officials who collectively received 12 shots and who each said the following words over and over again:

"Pandemic of the Unvaccinated!"

I'm pretty sure if I made this same post on Twitter their fact checkers would suspend my account for spreading misinformation.

-jp

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[JustRalph]

It’s a goddamned joke

[boxcar]

Originally Posted by JustRalph

It’s a goddamned joke

Yet, no one is laughing at these sick, pathetic, pathological, serial liars.

[PaceAdvantage]

mostpost might come along and tell you that being vaccinated makes sure you avoid the hospital and death...

The truth is, these current variants of COVID are far less deadly, and don't act in the same way as the original strain.

But critical thinking is beyond many.

[PaceAdvantage]

Our next President "has a team"...imagine...

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[PaceAdvantage]

Biden has cancer too...media doesn't care...or bother to clarify...neither does mostpost...what happened to those amazing skills they used to have of analyzing the FUCK out of every syllable that came out of Trump's mouth?

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Weird, right?

[Jeff P]

Originally Posted by PaceAdvantage

mostpost might come along and tell you that being vaccinated makes sure you avoid the hospital and death...

The truth is, these current variants of COVID are far less deadly, and don't act in the same way as the original strain.

But critical thinking is beyond many.

I recall him once posting the vaccinated had something like a 1 in 5,000 chance of being infected.

Using his numbers, if you had asked:

"What are the odds that Vice President Harris, Dr. Anthony Fauci, AND President Biden would each be infected while fully vaccinated?"

The answer would have been:

Odds = (1 / (1/5000)^3) - 1

or

about 1 in 125 Billion

And yet... it happened.

But you're right.

All semblance of critical thinking disappeared a long time ago.



-jp

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[PaceAdvantage]

Get well soon Joe:

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[PaceAdvantage]

It was only a year ago, Biden himself was telling the American people:

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But Trump is the evil one...

[MargieRose]

I respect this doctor's knowledge and intelligence...have right along.

Biden said: "I have been double vaccinated and double boosted." And yet, he contracts the virus. Dr. Risch explains why many of the vaccinated still get caught.

Dr. Harvey Risch, professor emeritus of epidemiology at the Yale School of Public Health...

Antibodies From Vaccines Interfering Instead of Neutralizing Because of Spike Protein Changes: Dr. Risch

The antibodies triggered by COVID-19 vaccines are interfering with people’s immune systems as newer virus variants emerge, Dr. Harvey Risch said.

The two most widely-used vaccines in the United States, produced by Pfizer and Moderna, both work by sending messenger RNA into muscle cells, where they produce a piece of the spike protein from the virus that causes COVID-19. The spike protein triggers the production of antibodies, which are believed to help prevent infection by SARS-CoV-2, which causes COVID-19, and fight illness if one still gets infected.

But the vaccines are based on the spike protein from the original virus variant, which was displaced early in the pandemic. Since then, a series of newer strains have become dominant around the world, with the latest being BA.5.

“The vaccines only make a very narrow range of antibodies to the spike protein,” compared to the broader exposure experienced when one gets infected...

He pointed to data reported by United Kingdom health authorities in March (pdf)—the officials stopped reporting the data after that—pegging people who had received both a primary vaccination series and a booster as having three times the rate of symptomatic infection as unvaccinated people.

“The problem with that is, of course, that when the spike protein changes because of new strains of the virus, that the ability of the immune system to make antibodies that correlate to the new strains becomes reduced to the point where it may be almost ineffective over longer periods of time,” he added.

That leads to the antibodies being triggered by the vaccines not binding strongly enough to neutralize.

“What that means is they become interfering antibodies, instead of neutralizing antibodies,” Risch said. “And that’s the reason I believe that we’ve seen what’s called negative benefit—negative vaccine efficacy over longer time—over four to six to eight months after the last vaccine dose, that one sees the benefit of the vaccines turn negative.”

[Jeff P]

Originally Posted by MargieRose

I respect this doctor's knowledge and intelligence...have right along.

Biden said: "I have been double vaccinated and double boosted." And yet, he contracts the virus. Dr. Risch explains why many of the vaccinated still get caught.

Dr. Harvey Risch, professor emeritus of epidemiology at the Yale School of Public Health...

Antibodies From Vaccines Interfering Instead of Neutralizing Because of Spike Protein Changes: Dr. Risch

MargieRose,

Before the mRNA Vaccines were approved for emergency use, there were many respected doctors, virologists, and immunologists who warned against vaccinating into the teeth of the pandemic for the very reason mentioned by Dr. Harvey Risch.

They argued the vaccines were 'leaky' (allowed too many breakthrough cases) and that would drive emergence of new Covid strains.

For those who may not know the concept is called Original Antigenic Sin.

Here's an article written before Covid and before FDA, CDC, NIH, and Big Pharma, etc. decided to ignore a lot of things known about the way our immune systems work.

The Journal of Immunology | January 15, 2019
Original Antigenic Sin: How First Exposure Shapes Lifelong Anti–Influenza Virus Immune Responses:
https://www.jimmunol.org/content/202/2/335

The original “original antigenic sin”

The term was first coined by Thomas Francis in 1960 (1). In his seminal study, Francis observed that hemagglutination inhibition assay titers were highest against seasonal influenza strains to which specific age cohorts had first been exposed (2). These observations were supported by serum absorption experiments, which confirmed that the vast majority of anti–influenza virus Abs in a population were cross-reactive against the pioneer strain of that age group (3).

Taken together, these data led Francis to postulate that subsequent infections with similar influenza virus strains preferentially boost the Ab response against the original strain (2). Although OAS has often historically been depicted as a problematic response, recent data have demonstrated that, in certain contexts, eliciting OAS may also be beneficial.

The critical role of primary exposure in shaping the composition of the Ab repertoire was not only observed in humans after influenza virus infections; this phenomenon was also observed in animal models and in the context of other infectious agents. For example, additional serum absorption experiments in ferrets infected in succession with three different influenza virus strains demonstrated that nearly all of the host Abs after the infection series were reactive against the first strain, only a fraction of serum Abs could be absorbed by the secondary virus, and fewer yet by the tertiary virus (3). These results could be replicated using sera of human donors who had been vaccinated against various influenza virus strains (3–6) and also using sera from rats that had been serially infected (7). In addition to influenza virus infections, OAS has also been reported in children who were exposed to sequential dengue virus infections (8). In all cases, the manifestation of OAS is fundamentally dependent upon the relatedness of Ags between primary and secondary infections as this phenomenon is not observed in the context of sequential exposure to distantly related (or unrelated) Ags (9).

Effects of OAS on susceptibility to infection

Although the effects of OAS can in certain cases be beneficial by enhancing an individual’s or cohort’s relative protection against future infections when the strains are antigenically related, it follows that this phenomenon can be problematic when strains are distantly related, leading to increased susceptibility to later infections. Using single year of age data, our group reanalyzed the infamous “W-shaped” mortality curve caused by the 1918/19 H1N1 Spanish Flu pandemic. We reported that those born in 1890, the year of the H3Nx “Russian Flu” pandemic, experienced an unusual peak in mortality (23). This phenomenon recurred when we examined the single-year mortality data from the 2009 H1N1 Swine Flu pandemic and found an unexpected peak in mortality for those born during the 1957 H2N2 Asian Flu pandemic (36). This led us to hypothesize that early-life imprinting by pandemic strains of influenza virus might increase susceptibility during subsequent pandemics caused by antigenically distinct strains.

In layman's terms, for people whose first exposure to Covid was caused by one of the mRNA spike protein vaccines, it's starting to look like their immune systems 'imprinted' on the spike protein of the original strain.

When subsequently exposed to the original strain they mounted an immune response geared toward the spike protein of the original strain, and I'm guessing very few even developed symptoms.

When subsequently exposed to one of the Delta strains they mounted an immune response geared toward the spike protein of the original strain.

But because Delta was similar enough to the original strain, even though a fair percentage went on to develop symptoms, very few went on to develop severe cases.

But when subsequently exposed to the newer Omicron strains now in circulation, they mount an immune response geared toward the spike protein of the original strain.

But because the newer Omicron strains are genetically distant enough from the original strain it isn't a particularly good immune response.

At least that's what the data is starting to look like.


-jp

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[MargieRose]

Originally Posted by Jeff P

MargieRose,

Before the mRNA Vaccines were approved for emergency use, there were many respected doctors, virologists, and immunologists who warned against vaccinating into the teeth of the pandemic for the very reason mentioned by Dr. Harvey Risch.

They argued the vaccines were 'leaky' (allowed too many breakthrough cases) and that would drive emergence of new Covid strains.

For those who may not know the concept is called Original Antigenic Sin.

Here's an article written before Covid and before FDA, CDC, NIH, and Big Pharma, etc. decided to ignore a lot of things known about the way our immune systems work.

The Journal of Immunology | January 15, 2019
Original Antigenic Sin: How First Exposure Shapes Lifelong Anti–Influenza Virus Immune Responses:
https://www.jimmunol.org/content/202/2/335

In layman's terms, for people whose first exposure to Covid was caused by one of the mRNA spike protein vaccines, it's starting to look like their immune systems 'imprinted' on the spike protein of the original strain.

When subsequently exposed to the original strain they mounted an immune response geared toward the spike protein of the original strain, and I'm guessing very few even developed symptoms.

When subsequently exposed to one of the Delta strains they mounted an immune response geared toward the spike protein of the original strain.

But because Delta was similar enough to the original strain, even though a fair percentage went on to develop symptoms, very few went on to develop severe cases.

But when subsequently exposed to the newer Omicron strains now in circulation, they mount an immune response geared toward the spike protein of the original strain.

But because the newer Omicron strains are genetically distant enough from the original strain it isn't a particularly good immune response.

At least that's what the data is starting to look like.


-jp

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Do you think the above scenario would apply to those who were lucky enough to have acquired natural immunity to the *original* Covid?