On your honor.......

[46zilzal]

then there is NoBiz. Anything look similar??? I think so: outside the parameters.

[Greyfox]

Thanks 46Z.
I'll keep that in mind for next year, God willing.
If something works use it. And it's been working for you.

[46zilzal]

Another one that burned some money Noble Causeway.

When there is data over and over that substantiates a conclusion, one generally heeds it.

[keilan]

Zilly – without adjusting for pace and trip the energy number is simply not reliable unto itself. This is the central reason that most players are confused by the variable, for as many times that it seems to make sense new uses soon find that on an equal number of times it’s unreliable. To put forth un-adjusted estimates of energy doesn’t cut it for me.

[46zilzal]

War Emblem the last three: BIG improvements and improving energy distribution all within the parameters.

[keilan]

Originally Posted by 46zilzal

then there is NoBiz. Anything look similar??? I think so: outside the parameters.

Post the date of these races okay -- then I'll try and explain a couple things to you

[46zilzal]

Originally Posted by keilan

Zilly – without adjusting for pace and trip the energy number is simply not reliable unto itself. This is the central reason that most players are confused by the variable, for as many times that it seems to make sense new uses soon find that on an equal number of times it’s unreliable. To put forth un-adjusted estimates of energy doesn’t cut it for me.

I thought it was too simplisitc myself but after 8 years of review, it has worked every year. It is a QUALIFIER, then once you get the colts together, you differentiate them.

As distances increase, SOME colts tell you they cannot get the distance as they run EARLIER into the contests and cannot apportion their runs later. It is a key to this and many developing three year olds.....

It works that's all I can say.

[46zilzal]

Originally Posted by keilan

Post the date of these races okay -- then I'll try and explain a couple things to you

No Biz's last three before the Derby.

and one of my favorite eliminations, Bellamy Road.

[46zilzal]

Funnycide last three. right in the same ballpark.

[46zilzal]

At the other extreme Sweetnorthernsaint. TOO LOW

[keilan]

Originally Posted by 46zilzal

It works that's all I can say.

Zilly if you don't understand how it works then it doesn't work. R u going to post the race dates for nobiz?

[keilan]

Originally Posted by 46zilzal

At the other extreme Sweetnorthernsaint. TOO LOW

There is no such thing as "too low" when it comes to energy. Matterafact if one is building models and see's a horse that runs competitive speed numbers with a lower %E than falls below the energy range it's time to hustle to the windows

[rrbauer]

Let me break the "tie" here.

This is text from an email that I sent to about 20 friends/cohorts (including some folks that hangout here) last Friday about noon EDT.

(The "can win" list is in PP order)

Derby horses with forward-moving sheet patterns that
look like they can run a figure (6 or better) fast enough to
win.
Curlin
Cowtown Cat
Street Sense (1)
Hard Spun
Tiago
Circular Quay

(1) Had a very grueling race in Tampa Derby and bounced in
his next race but has come back with two nice works at
Churchill. Any Given Saturday also bounced out of the Tampa
race but has not worked back as sharply since then.

A "lookout" horse to use in exotics: Sedgefield (a full
brother to English Channel) ran 2nd in the Lanes End despite
trouble and then ran back too soon at Keeneland. Has had a
month off and has been working well at Churchill. Can run
all day. Leparoux has been working him in morning.

You know what I know!

Good luck...........

Richard Bauer


Postscript to the email....Maybe Sedgefield can't run all day after all!

[keilan]

Originally Posted by rrbauer

Postscript to the email....Maybe Sedgefield can't run all day after all!

Nah Rich that's unfair I think he's still running

I'll tell ya I was cheering for him in the stretch to hang on for 3rd at 58-1

[chickenhead]

Originally Posted by keilan

Nah Rich that's unfair I think he's still running

I'll tell ya I was cheering for him in the stretch to hang on for 3rd at 58-1

You had him to show?