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Sure, sure, the science is settled -- not
https://www.heartland.org/sites/defa...mate_model.pdf
The authors show there is a large discrepancy between what the IPCC model predicts and theirs.
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Resolving the discrepancies between the methodology adopted by IPCC in AR4 and AR5 is vital. Once those discrepancies are corrected for, it appears that the impact of anthropogenic global warming over the next century, and even as far as equilibrium many millennia hence, may be no more than one-third to one-half of IPCC’s current projections.
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Finally, suppose that remaining affordably recoverable reserves of fossil fuels are as much as thrice those that have been recovered and consumed so far. Then, the total warming we shall cause by consuming all remaining recoverable reserves will be little more than 2.2 K, and not the 12 K imagined by IPCC on the RCP 8.5 scenario.
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For those whom need graphs and charts, see the original article posted at the link above -- there's plenty of them.
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03-19-2015, 11:08 AM
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For those whom need graphs and charts, see the original article posted at the link above -- there's plenty of them.
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How about cartoons or funny videos for those that getting all tired out from moving their lips when they read?
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03-19-2015, 11:21 AM
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They'll need to wait for Jon Stewart to produce something.
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03-21-2015, 01:53 AM
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Originally Posted by DJofSD
The authors show there is a large discrepancy between what the IPCC model predicts and theirs.
For those whom need graphs and charts, see the original article posted at the link above -- there's plenty of them.
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Heartland Institute, famous or infamous for minimizing the effects of smoking and other such pseudo-scientific silliness. As far as the graphs and charts the article is beyond the scope of most on this website except when they condemn traditional science, then they are quite clear. Amazing how people accept these articles as truth.
Heartland Institute is to source as O'Reilly is to Moral Turpitude
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03-21-2015, 04:56 AM
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The paper was published in a peer reviewed journal. Heartland merely linked to it.
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03-21-2015, 07:55 AM
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Originally Posted by ArlJim78
The paper was published in a peer reviewed journal. Heartland merely linked to it.
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This paper published in the Chinese journal Science Bulletin now makes a grand total of 2.
Pretty impressive 
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03-21-2015, 10:03 AM
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Originally Posted by hcap
This paper published in the Chinese journal Science Bulletin now makes a grand total of 2.
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Oh, why am I not surprised by the response?
Can not address the merits of the paper so try to demean it some other way.
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03-21-2015, 10:22 AM
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Originally Posted by DJofSD
Oh, why am I not surprised by the response?
Can not address the merits of the paper so try to demean it some other way.
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I have dealt with the PA climate deniers many times before.
You gents will post garbage straight from garbage sources. And lets just say "A Lie Can Travel Halfway Around the World While the Truth Is Putting On Its Shoes"
But my point here is the argument that "we have peer review on our side is absurd considering how many denier peer reviewed papers have actually been published.
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03-21-2015, 10:28 AM
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You gents will post garbage straight from garbage sources.
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The center of the Earth is millions of degrees.
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03-21-2015, 10:32 AM
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Originally Posted by hcap
I have dealt with the PA climate deniers many times before.
You gents will post garbage straight from garbage sources. And lets just say "A Lie Can Travel Halfway Around the World While the Truth Is Putting On Its Shoes"
But my point here is the argument that "we have peer review on our side is absurd considering how many denier peer reviewed papers have actually been published.
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Who says we're climate deniers?
It's been colder and warmer, so, to be clear, I am not denying that fact.
What you seem to miss every single time is how science is actually done and that it is a journey not a destination.
If we did science that way you believe it should be done, we'd still believe the sun was burning coal as a source of energy.
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03-21-2015, 10:42 AM
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There was an eclipse yesterday....I bet we hear about Solar shrinkage soon.
Come out from under your bed, hcap - the sun is back!
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03-21-2015, 10:43 AM
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I thought trolls hid under bridges not beds.
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03-21-2015, 10:52 AM
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Originally Posted by DJofSD
Who says we're climate deniers?
It's been colder and warmer, so, to be clear, I am not denying that fact.
What you seem to miss every single time is how science is actually done and that it is a journey not a destination.
If we did science that way you believe it should be done, we'd still believe the sun was burning coal as a source of energy.
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Give me a break.
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I say you are a climate change denier and so do you by linking to one of the 2 peer reviewed papers implying the current IPCC - Intergovernmental Panel on Climate Change studies are wrong. You are being dishonest. I have never denied long term climate change occurs. The point of contention has always been what is happening over a relatively short historical time frames.
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03-21-2015, 10:53 AM
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Give me a break. I say you are a climate change denier and so do you by linking to one of the 2 peer reviewed papers implying the current IPCC - Intergovernmental Panel on Climate Change studies are wrong. You are being dishonest. I have never denied long term climate change occurs. The point of contention has always been what is happening over a relatively short historical time frames.
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No, wrong again.
The point of debate is how much, if any of the change measured is due to mankind.
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03-21-2015, 10:57 AM
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No, wrong again.
The point of debate is how much, if any of the change measured is due to mankind.
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hcap is afraid of debate, that is why he declared it over.
What he meant was he was out ammunition and you were making him look silly.
It was the global warming version of "no mas!"
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