Bidenomics is working!

[PaceAdvantage]

Can you feel it?

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[davew]

yes, and the inflation production act will take another couple years to produce expected results

[davew]

people are happy with gaslighting

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fe8XQoA5Zm8

[Inner Dirt]

This is from an article posted 7/20/23 on the department of interior website:




“Today’s announcement marks another historic step in the Biden-Harris administration’s efforts to create a clean energy future. By catalyzing the offshore wind energy potential of the Gulf of Mexico, we can tackle the climate crisis, lower energy costs for families and create good-paying jobs,” said Secretary Deb Haaland.




What is the major thing wrong with the above bullshit statement, made by your typical Biden Administration appointee who has no job qualifications or an aptitude to learn on the fly?


This is a big fat lie right on a federal government site. I have seen Deb Haaland grilled before, totally lost in her job, she gives Kamala Harris a run for her money.


So since I have harped on this often, anyone know what the lie is?



Those 25 year off shore wind leases they bragged about went for peanuts, one of them went for just over $5 million in an area projected to cover almost 500,000 homes. They also came with credits for various items that we all know will quickly exceed $5 mil. On quick math they paid 40 cents a year per home to provide electricity.


I learned something new about wind turbines, they use 80 gallons of crude based oil for lubrication. That needs to be changed once a year. I wonder how much extra in construction costs are incurred due to needing to use
marine grade stainless steel 304ss, 316ss instead of the lower priced steels that do not need the high end corrosion resistance because they aren't around salt. Also compared to other materials that could be used if the wind turbines were on land, that 304 or 316 is much more difficult to work with.


Back to the original question I asked, what is wrong with the bolden statement? The next administration needs a panel that tells the whole story of green energy. People also need to be taught the misleading statements greenies make. I saw a good one it said a wind turbine can be energy neutral in 6-9 months. That means it created enough power to build another one, BFD.

[davew]

but once they triple 'energy costs', they will be able to say 'they lowered energy costs'




just like they are claiming inflation is down (from their record highs) and many demon wits believe it





and they 'created' 13 million jobs, after killing 10 million with their lock downs. What an unprecedented achievement ....

[Inner Dirt]

Originally Posted by davew

but once they triple 'energy costs', they will be able to say 'they lowered energy costs'




just like they are claiming inflation is down (from their record highs) and many demon wits believe it





and they 'created' 13 million jobs, after killing 10 million with their lock downs. What an unprecedented achievement ....

That is the correct answer, I doubt they will ever be able to lower it. My projection is $1 per KWH+, interesting you said triple. That is $1 per figuring all costs, not the funny math they use when pimping green energy. Of course rates vary through the USA. The manufacturing website I used to rely on high end electric user rates for put in a bunch of biased lefty mods. I got banned from off topic for calling out lying greenies. I think all of them lie, passing on misinformation without vetting is lying in my book. On last record all time low was 8 cents and the top was 40 cents without a demand meter hit.



I am not against green renewable energy, just tell the truth when pimping it.


When I was doing a lot of research on energy generation, even taking some green energy tours. I was most impressed at the Hoover Dam, not only was our tour guide highly technically knowledgeable, she also knew all the math. I will say it again, I was impressed. I went there with the goal of exposing the myth that hydroelectricity isn't what it was cracked up to be,
I will admit defeat. I am pretty sure our tour guide and the crowd thought I was a plant, like the school principal sitting in on a class.


Repeat the same behavior on a windmill farm tour on flat land and you will probably end up left in the desert. I got the "Does anyone else have any questions?" line. At the time wind was the most cost intensive and no real progress in technical advances on water it will be much worse.

[davew]

hydroelectricity was great until the indians said it disrupts their native fish migratory and salmon spawning patterns. Now on the west coast, they are starting to take them out


and since some tribes now have gambling money to throw around to politicians, they get more than in the past.

[Inner Dirt]

Originally Posted by davew

hydroelectricity was great until the indians said it disrupts their native fish migratory and salmon spawning patterns. Now on the west coast, they are starting to take them out


and since some tribes now have gambling money to throw around to politicians, they get more than in the past.

I would say they can't be that stupid, why in the hell would anyone listen to what Native American tribal leaders want? Of course having a negative opinion of them requires using your own two eyes and doing some investigation. Tribal leaders have been keeping all the gambling money spoils to themselves for decades in places like Southern California.


From an Indian Casino group site:


California is the nation's largest Indian gaming state in the nation with total revenues of $9 billion annually. There are 76 Indian casinos and 5 mini-casinos. The 76 California Indian gaming casinos are owned by 73 of the state's 109 tribes.

The Indian Casinos in California have a monopoly. They are the only place anything outside of horse racing, bingo, and card games where patrons are playing each other are allowed. In other words no slots and the like, that is big. There have been things on and off on the ballot to allow the card clubs and horse tracks to have slots over the years but they are always defeated.


Looks like this November gets another one in Cali.There are a lot of people that play slots, not my cup of tea. Retired senior citizen slot players dump a lot of money in casinos and with many that is all they play. It would be interesting to know what those one arm bandits rake in. I know they used to get my dad's SSI check every month. My dad ended up with a free perfectly good new house, and had other retirement income, his SSI check was mad money.


Damn, got off track again. I used to be able to drive a golf ball to an Indian Reservation that had a casino. In spite of a population around 500 it dominated the Sheriff Department and Police blotter in the newspaper.
The whole place other than the casino area and a few scattered tribal leader homes was one big steaming pile of despair. Over the decades I may have been on a dozen of them, they all looked the same, but that was California.


As for shutting down hydroelectric plants while promoting wind farms even ones in the ocean. I could be a liberal and just blurt out a bunch of grade school level insults, but I will just list an important fact. A simple control gate is used to adjust water flow, if you never had to shut down the turbine for maintenance you could allow that gate to freeze in place.


How do you control wind flow? Of course you don't, you have to control the turbine speed by using brakes, which are maintenance intensive.

Of course unless the water level is too low the turbines in the water are always spinning fast enough to generate electricity, not so with ones driven by wind. Look at any windfarm on land how many are not running?


At least Europeans are a lot brighter than USA greenies I read on a green geek site 8700 hydroelectric plants are in the works to be built in Europe.

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Life is WONDERFUL under Joe Biden:

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[Inner Dirt]

Originally Posted by PaceAdvantage

Life is WONDERFUL under Joe Biden:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VWimZjuIRe4

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IzLC48jZPrc

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I cannot blame Biden for homeless encampments, it is on the Democrat run cities for tolerating it. Where I used to work by Skid Row in East La there were just as many winos as there are today, they just did not let them put tents on the sidewalks.

[JustRalph]

Yeah…….

Keep believing that bullshit.

Remember when they “revised” the unemployment data early in his term….you know….right after the election?

Obama did the same shit.

I’m sure lots of people are celebrating the GDP numbers while they are grocery shopping at a 20% increase over 2021

[Inner Dirt]

Originally Posted by JustRalph

Yeah…….

Keep believing that bullshit.

Remember when they “revised” the unemployment data early in his term….you know….right after the election?

Obama did the same shit.

I’m sure lots of people are celebrating the GDP numbers while they are grocery shopping at a 20% increase over 2021

It seems higher than that to me, I suppose you would know as you probably are buying the same items in the same volumes, over, and over. Like when I order general shop supplies.

[PaceAdvantage]

The Fed keeps raising rates in the HOPES of COOLING OFF the economy...so...GOOD LUCK now!

They've worked themselves into QUITE the pickle...the chickens are all lining up just waiting to come home...

[JustRalph]

Originally Posted by Inner Dirt

It seems higher than that to me, I suppose you would know as you probably are buying the same items in the same volumes, over, and over. Like when I order general shop supplies.

A huge movie theater in Northeast Houston stopped selling 75% of their menu/candy/hot dogs etc.

Manager says nobody will pay the prices anymore. He is only selling his highest margin and most popular items now.

Mostly popcorn and soda