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05-02-2023, 11:40 AM
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Originally Posted by classhandicapper
I read something last night that I hadn't even considered.
The author claimed that Russia could totally level Ukraine any time it wants, but it has been moving slowly because there are a lot of Russian sympathizers and separatists in Ukraine. In fact, one of the factors that contributed to the war was the Ukrainian Nazis were warring with and killing Russian speaking and Russia friendly Ukrainians, especially in the east. So Putin is trying to make sure he doesn't kill too many Russian sympathizers that want to be independent and aligned with Russia while he's trying to take territory.
Sounds like an interesting theory.
Of course, that means we are the same side as the Ukrainian Nazis that are part of Zelensky's military. They don't even seem to shy about the fact that a subset of the Ukrainian military is Nazi. There are pictures of them posing with clear cut Nazi symbolism.
This is one of those cases where both side are terrible and you are trying to figure out who is the last bad.
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Sir, please don't spread Russian disinformation...are you a PUTIN LOVER? 
and in case you think the tweet is false, consider Newsweek story:
https://www.newsweek.com/nato-says-i...-tweet-1686523
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The first of the four images included what appeared to be a Ukrainian servicemember bearing a "Black Sun" on the chest area of her military fatigues. The symbol, also known in German as "Schwarze Sonne" or "Sonnenrad," is rooted in Nazi occultism and has been brandished by far-right elements across the globe, including in Ukraine, where it is featured on the official logo of the National Guard's Azov Regiment.
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I believe the Azov Regiment has since removed the Black Sun symbol from its logo...I wonder why...
Last edited by PaceAdvantage; 05-02-2023 at 11:43 AM.
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05-02-2023, 06:28 PM
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Not too long ago there was some woman that was written up in the western press as some kind of Ukrainian hero for her war efforts. Recently pictures of her with her Nazi buddies wearing and showing their Nazi symbolism leaked.
Seriously, I love what our country stands for "theoretically" (freedom, democracy, free markets etc..) and think most Americans are good people, but imo there are some evil people in the CIA and the neocons are pure evil. Someone has to clean house and it obviously won't be the corrupt dummy that's the president now.
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05-12-2023, 11:43 AM
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Sometime yesterday Ukraine began its counteroffensive.
Operations to North and South of Bakhmut have broken through the Russian flanks and they're possibly running free at this point.
A disaster for Wagner is imminent.
This is likely not the main operation of the offensive.
Wild that in the year 2023 Ukraine is capable of modern maneuver warfare and Russia is not.
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05-12-2023, 11:46 AM
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Russian MoD also confirms a "tactical withdrawal" to "more advantageous" positions in the North.
Russian forces in Bakhmut is serious risk of finding themselves trapped. We might see another hectic retreat like we saw around Kharkiv last fall.
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05-12-2023, 11:49 AM
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Hasn't this been telegraphed by Ukraine for a few weeks now?
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05-12-2023, 12:27 PM
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Originally Posted by PaceAdvantage
Hasn't this been telegraphed by Ukraine for a few weeks now?
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Yeah everyone knows they've been preparing for offensive operations.
One of the few perks of offensive operations is you get to choose where and when.
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05-12-2023, 02:10 PM
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The Voice of Reason!
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Any word on when they plan to start repaying us?
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05-12-2023, 02:14 PM
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Originally Posted by Tom
Any word on when they plan to start repaying us?
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There is no repaying, lets say Ukrainian forces won so the contract to rebuild will go to the United States and the cycle of big money from the taxpayer would start a new phase making people rich on our dime. It is all a scam.
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05-13-2023, 12:35 AM
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Originally Posted by Tom
Any word on when they plan to start repaying us?
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Joe, Hunter, James are actually repaying THEM .
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05-19-2023, 03:38 PM
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Last edited by fast4522; 05-19-2023 at 03:51 PM.
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05-19-2023, 04:15 PM
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The whole thing is a giant shit show. Russia is the weakest superpower the world has even known. Imagine not being able to take over Ukraine.
Why don't they just give up? I mean, they've lost tons of credibility as a military force...why even bother anymore...it's just going to get worse for them.
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05-19-2023, 04:44 PM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by PaceAdvantage
The whole thing is a giant shit show. Russia is the weakest superpower the world has even known. Imagine not being able to take over Ukraine.
Why don't they just give up? I mean, they've lost tons of credibility as a military force...why even bother anymore...it's just going to get worse for them.
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Putin may be close to death and will never surrender.. He also may be banking on a Trump election and counting on Trump shutting down the spigot of $$$ .
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05-19-2023, 04:46 PM
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Originally Posted by RayT
Putin may be close to death and will never surrender.. He also may be banking on a Trump election and counting on Trump shutting down the spigot of $$$ .
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Yeah, that's what it is...
That spigot of money is another shit show in and of itself
Why don't you just ADMIT you're wrong about Trump and Putin.
Notice how Putin didn't invade Ukraine under Trump?
WHY NOT???
Please, ANSWER THAT OBVIOUS QUESTION
Under Trump, according to you, Ukraine wouldn't have gotten ANY US AID!
It would have been a CAKE WALK for Putin.
but no...he chose to invade Ukraine AFTER TRUMP LEFT OFFICE
Hilarious...but bring up TRUMP some more
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05-19-2023, 04:49 PM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by PaceAdvantage
The whole thing is a giant shit show. Russia is the weakest superpower the world has even known. Imagine not being able to take over Ukraine.
Why don't they just give up? I mean, they've lost tons of credibility as a military force...why even bother anymore...it's just going to get worse for them.
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You might be right on that, but I would not back Putin into the corner because I know what he might do. Democrats are just like Russia willing to blow up everything. Sending F16's may be the last straw.
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05-19-2023, 04:52 PM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by PaceAdvantage
Yeah, that's what it is...
That spigot of money is another shit show in and of itself
Why don't you just ADMIT you're wrong about Trump and Putin.
Notice how Putin didn't invade Ukraine under Trump?
Because he was counting on him being reelected.
WHY NOT???
Please, ANSWER THAT OBVIOUS QUESTION
Under Trump, according to you, Ukraine wouldn't have gotten ANY US AID!
It would have been a CAKE WALK for Putin.
but no...he chose to invade Ukraine AFTER TRUMP LEFT OFFICE
Hilarious...but bring up TRUMP some more |
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LOL. MAGA is truly a mental disorder....
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