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Old 07-14-2023, 11:25 AM   #1
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I have attached a recently revised profile for Gerald Bennett for any of you who may be interested in some of the things I'm doing at Tampa.



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Old 07-15-2023, 09:13 AM   #2
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Hi John ---Windows Media Player cannot play the file. The Player might not support the file type or might not support the codec that was used to compress the file for trainer Bennett Gerald. Please help. Thanks..
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Old 07-15-2023, 09:40 AM   #3
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Hi John ---Windows Media Player cannot play the file. The Player might not support the file type or might not support the codec that was used to compress the file for trainer Bennett Gerald. Please help. Thanks..
It's an Excel file, not a file that you need to play in Media Player.
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Old 07-15-2023, 09:46 AM   #4
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It's an Excel file, not a file that you need to play in Media Player.
Thanks for the clarification.
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Old 07-15-2023, 10:01 AM   #5
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A word about John Barile.
But know from the start that he is the Real Deal.

When he and I did that video I posted in another thread, we spent several hours working together handicapping races.

John spent a lot of time explaining his thought process.

What he does is extremely powerful.
And he is an absolute MASTER at this stuff.

But the most impressive part of his game was the effort he puts into structuring his tickets.

I recall the story of one particular bet he made... He'd handicapped the race the night before and saw tremendous potential for a score.

His plan was to make the largest wager of the season - and if it worked out it would have a huge result.

He said that he agonized all night over it. Hardly slept.

Eventually got to sleep, and when he awakened, was as sure as he could be that it was the right bet to make. I believe he said it was the biggest bet he'd ever made.

It was multi-thousands of dollars.

Perhaps John recalls that bet - like he'd ever forget it. LOL

Better, perhaps he'd be willing to retell some of the story.


Here's that video link.
(The story of which I speak is not on the video.)

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Old 07-15-2023, 03:00 PM   #6
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Thanks John very nicely done
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Old 07-16-2023, 05:53 PM   #7
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A word about John Barile.
But know from the start that he is the Real Deal.

When he and I did that video I posted in another thread, we spent several hours working together handicapping races.

John spent a lot of time explaining his thought process.

What he does is extremely powerful.
And he is an absolute MASTER at this stuff.

But the most impressive part of his game was the effort he puts into structuring his tickets.

I recall the story of one particular bet he made... He'd handicapped the race the night before and saw tremendous potential for a score.

His plan was to make the largest wager of the season - and if it worked out it would have a huge result.

He said that he agonized all night over it. Hardly slept.

Eventually got to sleep, and when he awakened, was as sure as he could be that it was the right bet to make. I believe he said it was the biggest bet he'd ever made.

It was multi-thousands of dollars.

Perhaps John recalls that bet - like he'd ever forget it. LOL

Better, perhaps he'd be willing to retell some of the story.


Here's that video link.
(The story of which I speak is not on the video.)

Interview With John Barile
I'm gonna get down to the basement and find the worksheet for that 4 figure trifecta play....I think I know which one you mean from 2012.

Maybe it's time to do another Handicapping Live!
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Old 07-16-2023, 06:52 PM   #8
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I'm gonna get down to the basement and find the worksheet for that 4 figure trifecta play....I think I know which one you mean from 2012.

Maybe it's time to do another Handicapping Live!
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I seem to recall it was from a February race.

Does that sound right?

Like a $4k bet?
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Old 07-17-2023, 06:11 AM   #9
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A word about John Barile.
But know from the start that he is the Real Deal.

When he and I did that video I posted in another thread, we spent several hours working together handicapping races.

John spent a lot of time explaining his thought process.

What he does is extremely powerful.
And he is an absolute MASTER at this stuff.

But the most impressive part of his game was the effort he puts into structuring his tickets.

I recall the story of one particular bet he made... He'd handicapped the race the night before and saw tremendous potential for a score.

His plan was to make the largest wager of the season - and if it worked out it would have a huge result.

He said that he agonized all night over it. Hardly slept.

Eventually got to sleep, and when he awakened, was as sure as he could be that it was the right bet to make. I believe he said it was the biggest bet he'd ever made.

It was multi-thousands of dollars.

Perhaps John recalls that bet - like he'd ever forget it. LOL

Better, perhaps he'd be willing to retell some of the story.


Here's that video link.
(The story of which I speak is not on the video.)

Interview With John Barile

Thanks for the record. I'd like to watch it in its entirety, but it's very long. Is there an option to speed up the playback in this player? Or maybe the record is available on YouTube?
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Old 07-17-2023, 11:32 AM   #10
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I seem to recall it was from a February race.

Does that sound right?

Like a $4k bet?
As I was saying in an earlier post, conventional handicapping factors often inform or otherwise impact the way my wagers ultimately take shape.

I think the bet we are talking about was the 1st race on 2/25/12 and I made a weighted 4 horse trifecta wager for $1644. (I kept the details of my own bet from my clients, but the generalities were posted on my website and one of my clients qualified for a seat at the Vegas Handicapping Championship that year after she had this winner).

Gerald Bennett had a 33% Win angle.

Greg Griffith had a 33% Win angle.

Simms’ piece had no angle but was 10 of 18 in all dirt starts and most ITM were going at the route (as in this race).

My 3rd choice, the wildcard, but the ultimate lynchpin of the bet was a runner of Rosemary Homeister Sr. She had no angle, but figured, dropping way down in class (SALW10 to Claiming 5K) after showing early speed in previous two. My agent at the track, informed me that the pilot of Homeister Sr.’s runner, Irwin Rosendo, was the father of the jock Rosemary Homeister Jr.’s infant baby, though this was not widely known and both riders had mounts in this race and subsequently in my weighted tri. This kind of info often provides the grease that keeps the wheels turning in races that appear likely to have some “poetic inevitability” factor.

One will note that the horses’ names are not mentioned. This is no coincidence. The horses and their names are of little significance to me.

Homeister Sr.’s piece won the race and paid $28 and change and her daughter was 2nd aboard Griffith’s odd-on favorite. Simm’s piece was third.

My winning tri ticket was only 1.5% of the bet or $24, as I gave it only a 1 in 40 chance of happening that way, but the $2 tri returned $401 and the bet returned $4813.

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Thanks for the record. I'd like to watch it in its entirety, but it's very long. Is there an option to speed up the playback in this player? Or maybe the record is available on YouTube?
I assume you're speaking of the video.

There are plenty of browser add-ins that will control speed.
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Old 07-17-2023, 11:52 AM   #12
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My winning tri ticket was only 1.5% of the bet or $24, as I gave it only a 1 in 40 chance of happening that way, but the $2 tri returned $401 and the bet returned $4813.
That sounds right.

I do recall it was the biggest bet and return you had at the meet.

I think the best part of the story, though, is how you had a sleepless night deciding to pull that trigger.

I'd bet a great many people could learn from that.

To hear that a professional level player has to work to put themselves out there with significantly more risk than usual, might be somewhat vindicating.

(I'm so systematic in my own play as to be boringly consistent.)
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[QUOTE=Dave Schwartz;2890346]That sounds right.

I do recall it was the biggest bet and return you had at the meet.

I think the best part of the story, though, is how you had a sleepless night deciding to pull that trigger.

I'd bet a great many people could learn from that.

To hear that a professional level player has to work to put themselves out there with significantly more risk than usual, might be somewhat vindicating.

(I'm so systematic in my own play as to be boringly consistent.)[/QUOTE

Naturally, the bigger the bet being contemplated, the less sleep I get, but I must say that learning to trust yourself (your instinct + your skill level) does eventually lead to the acceptance that whatever the outcome, it was the right bet to make in that moment in time.

I cancel many plays at the last moment for one reason or another, but I never lose sleep over a losing bet.

Thanks to all who have showed interest in my trainer profiling methods especially (Dave Schwartz). It is much appreciated. Keep the faith!

JB

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Old 07-17-2023, 12:49 PM   #14
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Thanks for the record. I'd like to watch it in its entirety, but it's very long. Is there an option to speed up the playback in this player? Or maybe the record is available on YouTube?
It's 1.5 hours. Seems you aren't really interested in learning.
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I have attached a recently revised profile for Gerald Bennett for any of you who may be interested in some of the things I'm doing at Tampa.



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Do you track all of these angles manually or is the process automated?
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