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02-22-2014, 08:04 PM
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Let's go Reds!!
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Sigh all the complaining and I'm sure some of you will be playing Gulfstream tomorrow. 
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02-22-2014, 08:06 PM
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I won't be. But to be fair, I haven't played any of the meet.
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02-22-2014, 08:14 PM
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That is correct. It would be nice if someday racing could change the rules to take some of the subjectivity out of the result, but for now we'll have to put up with the current human element.
Good thing they don't have wagering on figure skating or wrestling, eh?
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02-22-2014, 08:20 PM
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This may be the biggest gambling jackpot in this nations history where the payout was arbitrarily denied.
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02-22-2014, 08:37 PM
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I agree with most every one that it was a bad decision, but I strongly disagree that this is some kind of indictment against "the game", the "industry" or some nationwide conspiracy against all bettors. The one person or group that got screwed has a legitimate beef. For most of the rest of you, it's just projection.
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02-22-2014, 08:40 PM
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Originally Posted by rastajenk
I agree with most every one that it was a bad decision, but I strongly disagree that this is some kind of indictment against "the game", the "industry" or some nationwide conspiracy against all bettors. The one person or group that got screwed has a legitimate beef. For most of the rest of you, it's just projection.
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I'm sure anyone that bet the 13 at nearly 40-1 was pretty darn happy. There is no consistency on these calls, even at the same track, and that is what gets people riled up. This is especially true when the call benefits the track in question financially.
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02-22-2014, 08:49 PM
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The 12 drifted out while clear, the jock was hitting right handed and should never have come down, The amazing thing is one of the stewards used to be a great jock and knows better..........  .
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02-22-2014, 08:51 PM
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The track doesn't have a highly vested interest in specific bets except when these extreme over the top carryover are in play. These monster carry overs can make the meet financially solvent. Without the carryover there is very little interest in betting weekday Gulfstream..
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02-22-2014, 08:53 PM
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looks like I'm in the minority but I don't see anything wrong with the DQ. considering the margin of victory and the amount of interference the 12 caused it seems justified. the 13 wins if the 12 hadn't drifted out so badly.
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02-22-2014, 08:55 PM
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So badly? I must be watching the wrong angle.
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02-22-2014, 09:06 PM
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looks like I'm in the minority but I don't see anything wrong with the DQ. considering the margin of victory and the amount of interference the 12 caused it seems justified. the 13 wins if the 12 hadn't drifted out so badly.
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We are a minority of 2. 13 was going to go past the 12 when he first moved out causing the 13 to lose momentum. The second 'near bump' is more questionable but that first one is DQ in my book. In the final strides the 13 was gaining on the 12. While a lot of these calls are tough, I think the right call was made here.
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02-22-2014, 09:18 PM
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If you go to the Twinspires site and check the GP replays, the only head on replay that is not available from today's card......
You guessed it.
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02-22-2014, 09:19 PM
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Maybe I need to watch the race again??
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02-22-2014, 09:20 PM
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If you go to the Twinspires site and check the GP replays, the only head on replay that is not available from today's card......
You guessed it.
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Head on is on AmWest. No conspiracy there. AmWest has about 9 min of video (usually races ar 3-4). Head-on was a few minutes in
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02-22-2014, 09:27 PM
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It was very similar to the Breeders Cup decision that moved Ria Antonia up, which I disagreed with also, but many here agreed with. I've always been taught, and read, that the leader has the right to go anywhere except to slam shut a narrow opening. The 13 had the entire width of the track to get past the 12; it's his jockey's fault he didn't use it. Bad decision.
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