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Old 02-02-2009, 10:53 AM   #16
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Not to forget Susan Osborne for all the love she shows her animals, and buying DC, His breeder Classic Star Farm, and breeding Chatta Code to E. Dubai. (who i think is going to become one kick ass sire in the future) Godolphin for owning E Dubai, and Arthur B. Hancock, and Stonerside for breeding E. Dubai, the owners of Chatta Code and her breeder Dr. A Gary Lavin. Not to mention, he looked great that day due to his groom, and I loved how good his assistant trainer praised him with so many pats and hugs after the race. He was cooled out well I am sure by his hotwalker. Thanks to the excersice rider for taking care of him every day, I am sure he did a great job, because it all came together that day, and I won alot of money too.

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Old 02-02-2009, 11:12 AM   #17
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Not to forget Susan Osborne for all the love she shows her animals, and buying DC, His breeder Classic Star Farm, and breeding Chatta Code to E. Dubai. (who i think is going to become one kick ass sire in the future) Godolphin for owning E Dubai, and Arthur B. Hancock, and Stonerside for breeding E. Dubai, the owners of Chatta Code and her breeder Dr. A Gary Lavin. Not to mention, he looked great that day due to his groom, and I loved how good his assistant trainer praised him with so many pats and hugs after the race. He was cooled out well I am sure by his hotwalker. Thanks to the excersice rider for taking care of him every day, I am sure he did a great job, because it all came together that day, and I won alot of money too.

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Dude , Stop the love fest!!!!!
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Old 02-02-2009, 01:00 PM   #18
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hey,, my poor attempt at humor...I didn't want you to think I was just thinking it was about the jock.

good luck to ya Cap,

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Old 02-02-2009, 02:33 PM   #19
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My defending Jose Amy did not have anything to do with my opinion of Migliore as a rider. He is a class act, safe rider, and a true family man, proving it by the move he made during the summer. Just thought he pulled the trigger on this one a little too soon.Not bad, summed it all up in four sentences. By the way, he's riding 3 horses total on Wednesday an thursday combined. Dominguez is on 14. You gotta budge a little buddy on the "picky" deal. I will honestly say that I have no idea who was responsible for all of the duties on Ramon's horses, but I don't think anyone cares to know. By the way, Ramon is my friend, but I won't share that with you during every post.
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Old 02-02-2009, 03:22 PM   #20
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I think perhaps I have to take a communications class due to the fact that I guess I am not getting my point across clearly enough. Kuddo's to the comment about Mig having class, I guess I started my "communication" with you because I percieved what you originally stated as a knock on Mig, and after reading now again, I still feel that way, and am glad to read that you at the least have respect for him.

I respect your opinion, but do disagree about the waiting a bit longer, 6 months, and his mounts have dwindled down to 3 in 2 days, as you pointed out, what should one wait for, waiting for 3 mounts a week? Do you honestly think that Mr. Migliore has turned live mounts down because he is "picky". I can't believe the lack of common sense in you writing that. It is ironic to me that you point out Dominquez riding 14. I doubt J Amy would be out of a job if he had Mr. Migliore on the same 14 mounts that Mr. Dominquez is on.. THATS THE POINT!!! Mr. Dominquez would be making a change himself if he had most of the same mounts Mr. Migliore has had all during the Aqueduct race meet and was failing to even make it into the top ten list.

And in ONE FINAL offering of defending my comments. I mentioned that Mr. Migliore is my friend in RESPONSE to your comment that perhaps I was soon to be fired by Mr. Migliore after he fires Mr. Mollica sometime in the near future. Sounds ridiculous? That is another point of mine because the comment WAS ridiculous.

I am willing to budge in any area I feel that I am wrong in. I am sorry Notsosuperagent, I can't agree with you on this one because I know differently, and I also know I am right. I'm not right on many things, but on this, I am sure. I appreciate your healthy dialogue, and respect the chance to keep it friendly,


p.s. I am also friends with Mr. Dominquez
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Old 02-02-2009, 03:54 PM   #21
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Mig and Drew are both close friends of mine, but if anything, having only three mounts on Wednesday and Thursday would be, if anything, a criticism of his former agent. That's not to say that even Mig would say that was solely his former agent's fault ( I can't speak for him ), but no agent in the world can take a guy's book and have him riding six horses a day, a week after taking his book, unless he was already riding that many.

There's plenty to argue about but let's be realistic here.
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Old 02-16-2009, 10:39 PM   #22
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Put a fork in him he`s done everyone has a ending .Time to talk retirement trainers are over him. Go to next page.Not agent`s fault . That`s life .
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Old 02-16-2009, 10:56 PM   #23
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On the bright side, at least he took off the Caps lock.

Let me guess.....a switch to decaf?
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Old 02-16-2009, 11:48 PM   #24
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If Migliore had more talent or could make horses 'run' he wouldn't need a new agent. World class riders become world class riders because they make horses run who don't appear like they can run on paper. Rafael Bejarano became everyone's favorite 'go to' jock by winning on big longshots. Anyone can win on a 3-5 shot, but its winning on the 10-1 shots that get you noticed.

Mig was a jock in So Cal that was an 'automatic throwout' for me. Even to THIS DAY i still look to bet on horses who had Mig riding and now someone else is aboard.

Mig is a class act, Wolff winner, great family man, but he's just an average jock at this point, which means that its not all his agent's fault for not winning.
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Old 02-17-2009, 12:01 AM   #25
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You know, I think I remember a similar thread about Mike Smith about a year or so back. He was being taken to task for not knowing when to retire, if my memory serves me right.

I just checked my database for Aqu/Inner since Jan 1st.

The Mig has only had 51 mounts but I have him winning at 19% and in 1-2nd-3rd 50% of the time.

Doesn't sound washed up to me?
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Old 02-17-2009, 12:15 AM   #26
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You know, I think I remember a similar thread about Mike Smith about a year or so back. He was being taken to task for not knowing when to retire, if my memory serves me right.

I just checked my database for Aqu/Inner since Jan 1st.

The Mig has only had 51 mounts but I have him winning at 19% and in 1-2nd-3rd 50% of the time.

Doesn't sound washed up to me?

Agreed
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Old 02-17-2009, 12:50 AM   #27
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World class riders become world class riders because they make horses run who don't appear like they can run on paper.
Not at all. The top riders are the ones that win with the highest percentage of their mounts that are supposed to win. That's all.

Jockeys don't win races......horses do. Jockeys are in the unenviable position of pretty much only being able to screw up.
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Old 02-17-2009, 12:54 AM   #28
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Not at all. The top riders are the ones that win with the highest percentage of their mounts that are supposed to win. That's all.

Jockeys don't win races......horses do. Jockeys are in the unenviable position of pretty much only being able to screw up.
Jockeys get to the top of the mountain due to great physical and mental skill, not by some 'stroke of luck' that they just happen to be on the best horses. Its not a coincidence that the very top riders keep getting the very top mounts.

Mig is a very well liked man in the industry, he speaks fluent english and has a nice family......you would think that with his 'advantages' he'd have a leg up on getting on some amazing horses. I don't know if you can blame the agent. If im an owner who wants Mig, i'm going to find a way to get him to ride my horse regardless of who his agent happens to be.
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Jockeys get to the top of the mountain due to great physical and mental skill, not by some 'stroke of luck' that they just happen to be on the best horses. Its not a coincidence that the very top riders keep getting the very top mounts.

Mig is a very well liked man in the industry, he speaks fluent english and has a nice family......you would think that with his 'advantages' he'd have a leg up on getting on some amazing horses. I don't know if you can blame the agent. If im an owner who wants Mig, i'm going to find a way to get him to ride my horse regardless of who his agent happens to be.

Is it his command of the English language or his nice family that helps him out the most? Do top riders with not-so-nice families lose mounts that they would get if their families were nicer? How about the ones with a lesser command of the English language.......how good do they have to be to overcome the added burden of a less-nice family?
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Old 02-17-2009, 01:12 AM   #30
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Jockeys get to the top of the mountain due to great physical and mental skill, not by some 'stroke of luck' that they just happen to be on the best horses. Its not a coincidence that the very top riders keep getting the very top mounts.

Mig is a very well liked man in the industry, he speaks fluent english and has a nice family......you would think that with his 'advantages' he'd have a leg up on getting on some amazing horses. I don't know if you can blame the agent. If im an owner who wants Mig, i'm going to find a way to get him to ride my horse regardless of who his agent happens to be.

Ok, it's late, I need sleep, but not before I state my observation that your last comment reafirms a few things in my HUMBLE OPINION.

1.You are under the age of 40.

2. You have no hands on knowledge of the Thoroughbred Racehorse, LET ALONE EVER SAT ON ONES BACK, have never held a real job at the racetrack backstretch or thoroughbred breaking or training facility, past perhaps selling preztels and beer in the grandstand.

3. Have no funtional knowledge of anything that goes into the making, and maintaining of a proffesional raceriding career.

4. Are probably nothing past a self monikered "serious horseplayer" who because he bets his money in the afternoon, is an expert on the sport.

I am not quite sure why owners are not bending over backwards to hire Richard Migliore, it is something I have pondered for years as I have stood by as one of his biggest fans. It is their loss IMHO. I can assure you though, and make no mistake on this one, it is not for a lack of talent. I have been lucky to work with him at times, and there is no other rider in the nation who could tell you, or teach you more about a horse. Bar none.

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