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Old 11-11-2022, 11:08 AM   #46
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Is Jack Christopher going to be retired or will they shoot for next year's big sprints?
Officially retired.

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Old 11-11-2022, 12:20 PM   #47
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Huh, I guess I saw JC's final race live. Doesn't feel that special though. Another horse retired prematurely to produce more horses that will be retired prematurely.
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Old 11-11-2022, 01:44 PM   #48
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Another horse retired prematurely to produce more horses that will be retired prematurely.
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Old 11-12-2022, 02:46 PM   #49
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I guess the pre-BC scratch makes a lot more sense now.
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I guess the pre-BC scratch makes a lot more sense now.
The owner and trainer were put in a no win situation. If absolutely anything happened to the horse if he ran again, they would never hear the end of it. The horse was basically retired for them by the vets at the BC.
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The owner and trainer were put in a no win situation. If absolutely anything happened to the horse if he ran again, they would never hear the end of it. The horse was basically retired for them by the vets at the BC.
The vets didn't prevent them from bringing the colt back next spring/summer. And yet somehow the nefarious vets didn't stop Domestic Spending from cracking his f*ing pelvis in his first start after 15 months off.
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The vets didn't prevent them from bringing the colt back next spring/summer. And yet somehow the nefarious vets didn't stop Domestic Spending from cracking his f*ing pelvis in his first start after 15 months off.
If you know anything about that injury, there is virtually no way anyone could have seen that one coming, vet or the connections.

And yes, the vets did prevent him from coming back next year IMO. It doesn't matter when he came back, he was always going to have that albatross hanging around his neck.
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The owner and trainer were put in a no win situation. If absolutely anything happened to the horse if he ran again, they would never hear the end of it. The horse was basically retired for them by the vets at the BC.
The thing I'm thinking is - he wasn't a vet scratch, he was a trainer scratch IN ANTICIPATION of a pre-race vet exam scratch, accompanied by saying that's why they scratched. It seems like they could have made the same scratch at the same time, given a different reason, and no one's the wiser, and they bring him back next year if that's what they want to do.

Based on the way it did go down, it looks like they may have been planning for the BC to be his last race, and when they saw this coming, it was just a way to still retire him, say he's fine, and throw more shade at the vets doing pre-race exams (following the Dolce Zel scratch a few days earlier) - though I think the BC vet makeup differs from just being KY regulatory vets.
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Old 11-14-2022, 07:52 AM   #54
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From Chad's comments it sounds like the horse had a funny way of moving but was perfectly sound.

You would think there's only one right answer to this.

Either Chad is right and there was no material incremental risk or the vets are right and there was a material incremental risk.


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“I’ve decided not to enter Jack Christopher to race this weekend in the Breeders’ Cup,” Brown wrote in a text message. “It was a difficult decision, but it’s my understanding that the veterinary teams in charge of clearing horses to participate are likely to scratch the horse on or before race day primarily based on the way he moves.

“I have done my due diligence and radiographed Jack Christopher from head to toe and sent the information to Dr. Larry Bramlage [of Rood and Riddle Equine Hospital], and no fractures or areas of concern were found by him,” Brown added. “Despite this, I feel it’s best for all parties involved not to have him scratched later this week and take away from the positive media coverage that should be the focus of our industry’s championship weekend.”
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