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07-05-2018, 02:58 PM
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#1021
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PA Steward
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Originally Posted by hcap
Here's Reuters
WASHINGTON (Reuters) - A Senate Intelligence Committee report released on Tuesday supports three U.S. intelligence agencies’ conclusion that Russia tried to help Donald Trump win the 2016 U.S. presidential election.
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I'm cool with this. Had they tried to help Hillary, THEN I'd be pretty pissed off.
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07-05-2018, 03:10 PM
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#1022
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Quote:
Originally Posted by PaceAdvantage
I'm cool with this. Had they tried to help Hillary, THEN I'd be pretty pissed off.
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Great post!
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07-05-2018, 03:10 PM
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#1023
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Registered User
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Judge tosses junk DNC lawsuit
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07-05-2018, 03:23 PM
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#1024
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Registered User
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Quote:
Originally Posted by OntheRail
There is no evidence on the outcome effect of Russian Election Meddling in any year past... previous... or future.
That was my point... but there is evidence (see^^^) of them meddling in past... previous... and no doubt future ones. Same as the US has done some 87 times to other nations. ( google it )
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No initially you babbled
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You cherry pick with the best of them... The Truth is as Stated.. in the end Russia had not influence on the outcome or as much as they had in 2008-2012... try as they may and much as you and your ilk wish for it to be more so.
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No I never claimed Russian influence ALTERED the election outcome, nor did the Senate Intel report claim that. The outcome of the 2016 election WAs NOT THE SUBJECT of the Senate Intel report. Nor any other investigation at this time.
The degree of meddling was unrepresented! Contrary to your um-sourced assertions.
I also quoted from the
The original 2017 report by the intel community:
Background to “Assessing Russian Activities and Intentions in Recent US
Elections”: The Analytic Process and Cyber
Incident Attribution
https://www.dni.gov/files/documents/ICA_2017_01.pdf
stating
In fact, the report said the 2016 meddling "demonstrated a significant escalation in directness, level of activity, and scope of effort compared to previous operations. It said the 2016 Russian meddling was the "boldest yet" in a U.S. election."
And you misquoted me,
Quote:
Originally Posted by hcap
Initially, it was believed that it was business as usual. The Russians always do this kind of thing.
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cutting off the full quote.....
“Initially, it was believed that it was business as usual. The Russians always do this kind of thing. However, as the effort intensified and the number of people involved on the Russian side grew, it became clear that it was not business as usual. It was a bigger and more varied operation.” But the official said that it took time for the agencies to understand what they were picking up and disseminate it to policymakers."
In am through with your lying, twisting and diverting from the truth. Believe what DEAR Leader convinces you to believe.
PLEASANT DREAMS
Buh bye
Last edited by hcap; 07-05-2018 at 03:31 PM.
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07-05-2018, 03:42 PM
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#1025
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Originally Posted by upthecreek
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THE BOTTOM LINE is not this lawsuit, it is what Robert Mueller will do.
My guess is it will not be pretty for Roger
Roger Stone says he could be indicted by Mueller
http://www.businessinsider.com/roger...mueller-2018-6
Stone has drawn scrutiny for being in touch with WikiLeaks and the Russia-linked hacker Guccifer 2.0 during the 2016 election.
He also said he "communicated" with WikiLeaks founder Julian Assange, though he later walked that back and said it was through an intermediary.
Last week, it surfaced that Stone met with a Russian during the campaign who offered to sell him dirt on former Democratic presidential nominee Hillary Clinton.
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07-05-2018, 03:50 PM
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#1026
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Quote:
Originally Posted by me
The degree of meddling was unrepresented! Contrary to your um-sourced assertions.
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Oops.....
The degree of meddling was Unprecedented! Contrary to your um-sourced assertions.
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07-05-2018, 04:15 PM
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#1027
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PA Steward
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We don't really care. Those in touch realize Russia has been meddling for decades.
Nobody cared until Hillary got whamboozled.
Emphasis on the booze.
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07-05-2018, 04:29 PM
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#1028
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Quote:
Originally Posted by PaceAdvantage
We don't really care. Those in touch realize Russia has been meddling for decades.
Nobody cared until Hillary got whamboozled.
Emphasis on the booze.
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You ared noy paying attention.
What else is new?
Let me remind you what I have been saying. Although Russian attempts at meddling occurred previously.......
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In fact, the report said the 2016 meddling "demonstrated a significant escalation in directness, level of activity, and scope of effort compared to previous operations. It said the 2016 Russian meddling was the "boldest yet" in a U.S. election."
“Initially, it was believed that it was business as usual. The Russians always do this kind of thing. However, as the effort intensified and the number of people involved on the Russian side grew, it became clear that it was not business as usual. It was a bigger and more varied operation.” But the official said that it took time for the agencies to understand what they were picking up and disseminate it to policymakers."
The degree of meddling was Unprecedented
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07-05-2018, 04:42 PM
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#1029
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PA Steward
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Quote:
Originally Posted by hcap
You ared noy paying attention.
What else is new?
Let me remind you what I have been saying. Although Russian attempts at meddling occurred previously.......
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So basically...yeah...what I said is true.
Thank me very much.
Nobody cared until Hillary got slammed to the sidelines (or did she trip over to there?)
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07-05-2018, 04:55 PM
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#1030
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Quote:
Originally Posted by PaceAdvantage
So basically...yeah...what I said is true.
Thank me very much.
Nobody cared until Hillary got slammed to the sidelines (or did she trip over to there?)
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Why do I get the feeling OT is now the home of....
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07-05-2018, 05:03 PM
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#1031
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The Voice of Reason!
Join Date: Mar 2001
Location: Canandaigua, New york
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Quote:
Originally Posted by hcap View Post
Here's Reuters
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I got your Reuters right here!
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Last edited by Tom; 07-05-2018 at 05:06 PM.
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07-05-2018, 05:07 PM
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#1032
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PA Steward
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Quote:
Originally Posted by hcap
Why do I get the feeling OT is now the home of....
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Since you're deep in the weeds on this, you must know the answer.
You agree that Russia has been meddling for decades in US affairs, including elections.
So I ask you. What candidates have they favored in the past. Let's assume for the moment you are correct and they really ramped it up in 2016. OK.
But, the intelligence community admits this has been going on before 2016, correct?
So, which candidates did they favor in the past?
Do you know this answer? Has it ever been talked about before?
Are we to assume Russia NEVER favored one candidate over another? Is that why it has never been reported before?
I'm quite curious what the history is on Russia meddling. Surely, something of this importance has been researched by the intelligence community before Trump, correct?
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07-05-2018, 05:15 PM
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#1033
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The Voice of Reason!
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Location: Canandaigua, New york
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Quote:
Originally Posted by PaceAdvantage
So, which candidates did they favor in the past?
Do you know this answer? Has it ever been talked about before?
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Yes, hcap.....inquiring minds want to know.
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07-05-2018, 05:44 PM
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#1034
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Registered User
Join Date: Aug 2009
Posts: 6,399
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Quote:
Originally Posted by hcap
No I never claimed Russian influence ALTERED the election outcome, nor did the Senate Intel report claim that. The outcome of the 2016 election WAs NOT THE SUBJECT of the Senate Intel report. Nor any other investigation at this time.
That's been your main whine since 11-8-16 10pm
The degree of meddling was unrepresented! Contrary to your um-sourced assertions.
I also quoted from the
The original 2017 report by the intel community:
Background to “Assessing Russian Activities and Intentions in Recent US
Elections”: The Analytic Process and Cyber
Incident Attribution
https://www.dni.gov/files/documents/ICA_2017_01.pdf
stating
In fact, the report said the 2016 meddling "demonstrated a significant escalation in directness, level of activity, and scope of effort compared to previous operations. It said the 2016 Russian meddling was the "boldest yet" in a U.S. election."
And you misquoted me,
cutting off the full quote.....
“Initially, it was believed that it was business as usual. The Russians always do this kind of thing. However, as the effort intensified and the number of people involved on the Russian side grew, it became clear that it was not business as usual. It was a bigger and more varied operation.” But the official said that it took time for the agencies to understand what they were picking up and disseminate it to policymakers."
In am through with your lying, twisting and diverting from the truth. Believe what DEAR Leader convinces you to believe.
PLEASANT DREAMS
Buh bye
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You spin and twist and distort you claim report states no conclusions... and then go on to post after post saying it helped Trump with your cut and paste job... can't have it both ways... Buttercup.
The truth is ineffectual meddling happened in the past and will happen again... but you can't handle it... and reality has left you behind.
cappy with out the paint applied...
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07-05-2018, 10:47 PM
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#1035
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Registered User
Join Date: May 2011
Posts: 22,705
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Quote:
Originally Posted by hcap
Oops.....
The degree of meddling was Unprecedented! Contrary to your um-sourced assertions.
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just wait until Trump is impeached and the election overturned so Hillary takes over as president ... then you will be able to say
I told you so, skumbags !!!
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