Religion III

[boxcar]

Originally Posted by Light

How do I know that you don't need to follow a religion to get to Heaven and see God?

Someone who I know recently passed said after passing "There is a creator, I spoke to him, he explained everything, and I'm fine."

This person did not practice religion and was a general pain in the ass to be around.

Wow! Really? Did you hold to a seance with a medium to talk to the dead?

[hcap]

Originally Posted by boxcar

Did Calvin write any of the bible? Have I ever quoted Calvin on this forum? I have quoted and cited plenty of scripture, but somehow your decrepit pea brain associates those passages with Calvin?

How much are you willing to bet, Mr Totally Depraved, "elected" Ambassador?

[boxcar]

Originally Posted by hcap

How much are you willing to bet, Mr Totally Depraved, "elected" Ambassador?

Give chapter and verse! I don't recall ever quoting Calvin from any of his works, of which he had plenty by the way.

[hcap]

Originally Posted by boxcar

Give chapter and verse! I don't recall ever quoting Calvin from any of his works, of which he had plenty by the way.

Who else here posted anything about Calvin's doctrines of Total Depravity or who was per-destined to be "elected", before the "foundation of the world"?

[boxcar]

Originally Posted by hcap

Who else here posted anything about Calvin's doctrines of Total Depravity or who was per-destined to be "elected", before the "foundation of the world"?

Posting something about Calvin's systematic theology is not the same as directly quoting Calvin. I have always supported the Doctrines of Grace (including Total Depravity) with scripture.

[hcap]

Originally Posted by boxcar

Posting something about Calvin's systematic theology is not the same as directly quoting Calvin. I have always supported the Doctrines of Grace (including Total Depravity) with scripture.

You just asked me to "quote" you quoting Calvin . You claimed you never quoted him. I never said you did verbatim. But you are the only Calvinist on this thread, and discussed Total Depravity and per-destination many times.

Now you are changing the subject again. Apparently too embarrassed to defend those weird 16th century doctrines.

[boxcar]

Originally Posted by hcap

You just asked me to "quote" you quoting Calvin . You claimed you never quoted him. I never said you did verbatim. But you are the only Calvinist on this thread, and discussed Total Depravity and per-destination many times.

Now you are changing the subject again. Apparently too embarrassed to defend those weird 16th century doctrines.

You're pathetic. I have defended the Doctrines of Grace with Scripture very often over the years. You truly have lived up to your favorite emoticon:

[hcap]

Originally Posted by boxcar

You're pathetic. I have defended the Doctrines of Grace with Scripture very often over the years. You truly have lived up to your favorite emoticon:

My, my little man, I seemed to hit a nerve asking you to defend Calvin's 16th century doctrines. There was no discussion of "Grace". That was another of your rabbit holes to nowhere.

Calm down bunky, you are making a fool of yourself.

[boxcar]

Originally Posted by hcap

My, my little man, I seemed to hit a nerve asking you to defend Calvin's 16th century doctrines. There was no discussion of "Grace". That was another of your rabbit holes to nowhere.

Calm down bunky, you are making a fool of yourself.

The five doctrines (including Total Depravity and Unconditional Election) are called the Doctrines of Grace, fool.

[hcap]

Originally Posted by boxcar

The five doctrines (including Total Depravity and Unconditional Election) are called the Doctrines of Grace, fool.

I thought that was only one of the five doctrines...
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The doctrines and teachings of John Calvin or his followers, emphasizing predestination, the sovereignty of God, the supreme authority of the Scriptures, and the irresistibility of grace.

Irresistible grace: This is the belief that God's chosen elect cannot resist God's grace in their lives.
.......


Of course that begs the question. As I have asked before. Does god extend grace to his un-elected. Like all those "apostates" you insist Catholics, Jews, and anyone else not buying your literal biblical Christianity are?

[boxcar]

Originally Posted by hcap

I thought that was only one of the five doctrines...
.......
The doctrines and teachings of John Calvin or his followers, emphasizing predestination, the sovereignty of God, the supreme authority of the Scriptures, and the irresistibility of grace.

Irresistible grace: This is the belief that God's chosen elect cannot resist God's grace in their lives.
.......


Of course that begs the question. As I have asked before. Does god extend grace to his un-elected. Like all those "apostates" you insist Catholics, Jews, and anyone else not buying your literal biblical Christianity are?

Your mind is totally shot. Go back and read my last post. I said "INCLUDING Total Depravity and Unconditional Election.) Those are two of the five doctrines.

And the Doctrines of Grace have nothing to do with the authority of the scriptures. The doctrines deal with the branch of theology known as soteriology. Google the acronym T.U.L.I.P.

[hcap]

Originally Posted by boxcar

Your mind is totally shot. Go back and read my last post. I said "INCLUDING Total Depravity and Unconditional Election.) Those are two of the five doctrines.

And the Doctrines of Grace have nothing to do with the authority of the scriptures. The doctrines deal with the branch of theology known as soteriology. Google the acronym T.U.L.I.P.

Why can't you have a discussion without denying what you said a few posts back? Drop your constant diversionary tactics of posting rabbit hole after rabbit hole.

Please tell me if Calvin's unconditionally elected are the only non-apostates?

[boxcar]

Originally Posted by hcap

Why can't you have a discussion without denying what you said a few posts back? Drop your constant diversionary tactics of posting rabbit hole after rabbit hole.

The really pertinent question is: When are you going to learn to read?

Please tell me if Calvin's unconditionally elected are the only non-apostates?

The biblically unconditionally elected are the only saved people in the world.

[hcap]

Originally Posted by boxcar

The really pertinent question is: When are you going to learn to read?



The biblically unconditionally elected are the only saved people in the world.

You mean like you?

[boxcar]

Originally Posted by hcap

You mean like you?

Yes. And there are many more believers like me.