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03-29-2016, 01:21 PM
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Maybe it isn't "drugs" at all. Maybe it is one guy getting 85% of the best bred horses? Who really knows, lets wait to hear if he expounds.
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03-29-2016, 01:31 PM
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Maybe it isn't "drugs" at all. Maybe it is one guy getting 85% of the best bred horses? Who really knows, lets wait to hear if he expounds.
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Exactly! Everyone this week has been complaining about UConn women's basketball and asking if their dominance is good for the sport. Well here's a question aside from Ralph Nicks who has Mandy Pope's horses don't Chad Brown, Pletcher and Baffert get EVERY horse sold for over $500K?
That might be more the issue than these "drugs."
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03-29-2016, 01:50 PM
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Originally Posted by cj
Maybe it isn't "drugs" at all. Maybe it is one guy getting 85% of the best bred horses? Who really knows, lets wait to hear if he expounds.
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CJ about 85% of the best bred horses are duds...
Baffert has more horses over $500,000 that couldn't break even..
Last edited by Kash$; 03-29-2016 at 01:52 PM.
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03-29-2016, 09:38 PM
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Originally Posted by SuperPickle
Exactly! Everyone this week has been complaining about UConn women's basketball and asking if their dominance is good for the sport. Well here's a question aside from Ralph Nicks who has Mandy Pope's horses don't Chad Brown, Pletcher and Baffert get EVERY horse sold for over $500K?
That might be more the issue than these "drugs."
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They don't get every horse, but you make a smart point. The number they get is ridiculously skewed. Nyquist went for $400K as a two year old, and that may have been a bargain since the Uncle Mo's are gaining in popularity, and I know Reddam just got another one for $800K. It would be interesting to see who else gets the expensive thoroughbreds.
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03-29-2016, 10:12 PM
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So wait, shady stuff happens at the track (your first sentence) but if people post about it they are complainers, need mental health evaluations as well as 'blaming others'?
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NO! the first sentence was "90% of you are the biggest idiots I've ever met!" And for you, if the shoe fits....
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03-29-2016, 10:20 PM
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Originally Posted by SuperPickle
Exactly! Everyone this week has been complaining about UConn women's basketball and asking if their dominance is good for the sport. Well here's a question aside from Ralph Nicks who has Mandy Pope's horses don't Chad Brown, Pletcher and Baffert get EVERY horse sold for over $500K?
That might be more the issue than these "drugs."
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McLaughlin gets Darley/Godolphin racers, Mott other big time owners. Sheriffs in CA does well.
Maybe Romans is discouraged never winning a KD. Pletcher has won 4,000 career races and Romans less than half that. Didn't Romans "retire" a few years ago only to "unretire" He has had nice horses...but never a stream of really good champions year after year...
His bio states he manages a stable of 150. But if he is comparing himself to Pletcher...he is unrealistic and it is not "drugs" Pletcher's bio lists winners and champions. Romans'bio lists alot of training titles...more than champion horses.
So Romans thinks if he moves to Hong Kong he will be the "Pletcher of Sha Tin"?
http://www.toddpletcherracing.com/champions.asp
http://www.toddpletcherracing.com/stakes_winners.asp
http://daleromansracing.com/team.html
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03-29-2016, 10:49 PM
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Leading 2015 Hong Kong Trainer win rate was 13%, hmm
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03-29-2016, 10:53 PM
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Sheriffs!!! 
He is a prime example with his babies where if Santa Anita/US were to ever incorporate anything from Hong Kong would be the stalls test and barrier trials.
He flushes a lot of squid when they miss the start by 5 or 6 lengths. Yet, the betting public never learn........Ziconic!!!
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03-29-2016, 11:21 PM
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Originally Posted by Kash$
CJ about 85% of the best bred horses are duds...
Baffert has more horses over $500,000 that couldn't break even..
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Irrelevant to the point.
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03-30-2016, 01:17 AM
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Romans is now denying all of this according to bloodhorse.
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03-30-2016, 01:23 AM
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Originally Posted by Rise Over Run
NO! the first sentence was "90% of you are the biggest idiots I've ever met!" And for you, if the shoe fits....
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Thanks for pointing that out, has nothing to do with anything though. Keep trying, one day you'll contribute something that people here want to read.
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03-31-2016, 04:16 AM
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Originally Posted by Stillriledup
Thanks for pointing that out, has nothing to do with anything though. Keep trying, one day you'll contribute something that people here want to read.
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The funny part of all of this was I called out the 90% of idiots and you were the first to respond. Think about that!
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03-31-2016, 04:58 AM
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Originally Posted by InsideTheRaces.com
The funny part of all of this was I called out the 90% of idiots and you were the first to respond. Think about that!
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I cant, my head would hurt.
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03-31-2016, 10:38 AM
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Originally Posted by Racetrack Playa
Leading 2015 Hong Kong Trainer win rate was 13%, hmm
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Virtually impossible to win more than 18 to 20% there, with an average of 13 horses in every race and no claiming races to drop down and outclass other runners for easy wins. With the handicap system you are restricted on where you can run your horses.
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03-31-2016, 02:40 PM
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Originally Posted by woodbinepmi
Virtually impossible to win more than 18 to 20% there, with an average of 13 horses in every race and no claiming races to drop down and outclass other runners for easy wins. With the handicap system you are restricted on where you can run your horses.
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