Horse Racing Forum - PaceAdvantage.Com - Horse Racing Message Board

Go Back   Horse Racing Forum - PaceAdvantage.Com - Horse Racing Message Board > Thoroughbred Horse Racing Discussion > General Handicapping Discussion


Reply
 
Thread Tools Rate Thread
Old 04-18-2015, 06:46 PM   #1
NY BRED
GARY
 
NY BRED's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jun 2005
Location: Florida
Posts: 1,339
TVG and the BIG A Blackout of live racing

So, Golden Gate, Tampa and naturally Santa Anita trump The Big A??

Would be fitting Justice for Belmont to disallow TVG on their grounds
on Belmont day.

Again wondering if NYRA could use their AQU Insider crew +
Jeff and Aaron and do live racing on MSG /Sports Channel etc..

Even better, NYRA could bring in DRF personnel, Jerry Brown which would appeal to many of us and newbies.


Dream on???



Last edited by NY BRED; 04-18-2015 at 06:51 PM.
NY BRED is offline   Reply With Quote Reply
Old 04-18-2015, 07:29 PM   #2
Tom
The Voice of Reason!
 
Tom's Avatar
 
Join Date: Mar 2001
Location: Canandaigua, New york
Posts: 108,857
Golden Gate gets far more coverage than NYRA.
TVG is first class.
__________________
Who does the Racing Form Detective like in this one?
Tom is offline   Reply With Quote Reply
Old 04-18-2015, 08:02 PM   #3
Stillriledup
Veteran
 
Join Date: Oct 2009
Posts: 25,607
they dont even show the Big A results on the scroll anymore...its like they aren't even running.

I thought at one point today "is aqueduct cancelled" TVG might not know they even raced.
Stillriledup is offline   Reply With Quote Reply
Old 04-18-2015, 09:19 PM   #4
PaceMasterT
Registered User
 
Join Date: Jun 2014
Posts: 217
Quote:
Originally Posted by NY BRED
So, Golden Gate, Tampa and naturally Santa Anita trump The Big A??

Would be fitting Justice for Belmont to disallow TVG on their grounds
on Belmont day.

Again wondering if NYRA could use their AQU Insider crew +
Jeff and Aaron and do live racing on MSG /Sports Channel etc..

Even better, NYRA could bring in DRF personnel, Jerry Brown which would appeal to many of us and newbies.


Dream on???


Maybe the Big A should get more than 4 or 5 horses in a race.
PaceMasterT is offline   Reply With Quote Reply
Old 04-18-2015, 11:01 PM   #5
cj
@TimeformUSfigs
 
cj's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jan 2002
Location: Moore, OK
Posts: 46,151
Quote:
Originally Posted by PaceMasterT
Maybe the Big A should get more than 4 or 5 horses in a race.
^^^^ This! ^^^^

The cards have been, to be kind, unappealing. NYRA is generally my number one circuit, but I've barely looked lately. I'm sure it will change when racing shifts to Belmont and a lot of the Keeneland horses head north.
cj is offline   Reply With Quote Reply
Old 04-18-2015, 11:38 PM   #6
Stillriledup
Veteran
 
Join Date: Oct 2009
Posts: 25,607
Quote:
Originally Posted by cj
^^^^ This! ^^^^

The cards have been, to be kind, unappealing. NYRA is generally my number one circuit, but I've barely looked lately. I'm sure it will change when racing shifts to Belmont and a lot of the Keeneland horses head north.
Races should be shown in order of amount wagered, the bigger the pool/handle, the more preference the race should get.
Stillriledup is offline   Reply With Quote Reply
Old 04-19-2015, 12:15 AM   #7
arno
Registered User
 
arno's Avatar
 
Join Date: May 2005
Location: Palm Beach FL but heart at Monmouth Park
Posts: 178
Quote:
Originally Posted by Stillriledup
Races should be shown in order of amount wagered, the bigger the pool/handle, the more preference the race should get.
Does amount wagered mean to show Los Alamitos over the Meadowlands?
Does it mean to show replays of Happy Valley in Hong Kong at 1PM Wednesdays?

We are spoiled you must remember when the only races you saw were Win Elliot at 6PM and Stan Bergstein at 1130PM
__________________
Arno Umpire
arno is offline   Reply With Quote Reply
Old 04-19-2015, 01:18 AM   #8
Stillriledup
Veteran
 
Join Date: Oct 2009
Posts: 25,607
Quote:
Originally Posted by arno
Does amount wagered mean to show Los Alamitos over the Meadowlands?
Does it mean to show replays of Happy Valley in Hong Kong at 1PM Wednesdays?

We are spoiled you must remember when the only races you saw were Win Elliot at 6PM and Stan Bergstein at 1130PM
I'm just talking about the races in their "lineup" on tracks that they're regularly showing.
Stillriledup is offline   Reply With Quote Reply
Old 04-19-2015, 07:29 AM   #9
acorn54
Registered User
 
Join Date: Dec 2003
Location: new york
Posts: 1,595
yeah some meet the big A had this past year. i bet maybe 5-10 races the entire meet.
i wonder if there was a huge decrease in handle? does anybody know?
i use to look forward to the big A as my primary betting track for the winter.
so from me they got about only 1% of what i would usually bet in the winter months. i am sure this must be the case for alot of bettors that look for full fields.
acorn54 is offline   Reply With Quote Reply
Old 04-19-2015, 09:17 AM   #10
Grits
Registered User
 
Grits's Avatar
 
Join Date: Apr 2007
Posts: 7,656
Aqueduct's winter meet has never had appeal... not until the Wood Memorial rolls around. Still, it has never been this bad in regard to fields. There are times to take breaks, dead of winter is one of them. JMO

One can look forward to Belmont in just a few days!
Grits is offline   Reply With Quote Reply
Old 04-19-2015, 09:21 AM   #11
NY BRED
GARY
 
NY BRED's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jun 2005
Location: Florida
Posts: 1,339
TVG

Quote:
Originally Posted by Stillriledup
Races should be shown in order of amount wagered, the bigger the pool/handle, the more preference the race should get.

Sorry, but in my world ,if you are catering to fans, rather than whales,
I would stick to televising the large circuits on a primary basis..

I would believe Belmont Day eclipses GG, and the smaller circuits
on any one day.

All roads lead to my recommendation of a NYRA network, and if that
wish/dream will never happen, perhaps Twinspires would jump into
the mix.
NY BRED is offline   Reply With Quote Reply
Old 04-19-2015, 10:48 AM   #12
Tom
The Voice of Reason!
 
Tom's Avatar
 
Join Date: Mar 2001
Location: Canandaigua, New york
Posts: 108,857
GG must be Golden Goose.
Both channels seem to cater to it.

I seem to always be on the wrong channel.

Watching the prattle up to the CT race yesterday, then I go get a drink and come back to find they sent you to TVG for the race and I tune in halfway through it.

They should rename the network Where's Waldo.
__________________
Who does the Racing Form Detective like in this one?
Tom is offline   Reply With Quote Reply
Old 04-19-2015, 01:10 PM   #13
fmolf
Registered User
 
Join Date: Mar 2009
Location: massapequa park ny
Posts: 2,164
NYRA will not cater to any demands of tvg for a sweetheart deal?..Golden gate has taken preference over aqueduct as has turfway and just about any other small time track that aquiesces to their demands.They truly are not serving the best interests of racing in my opinion!...
P.S:....this is the same reason that Belmont does not get the breeders cup....they will not kiss their ass to do so!...i hope NYRA sticks to their guns!
fmolf is offline   Reply With Quote Reply
Old 04-19-2015, 01:22 PM   #14
Robert Fischer
clean money
 
Robert Fischer's Avatar
 
Join Date: Sep 2006
Location: Maryland
Posts: 22,289
NYRA has a cable channel in Ny right? At least that's something, but it should be nationwide.


Racing is so myopic. Every household with basic cable should have the major tracks on TV with an integrated wagering adw platform.


someone like TVG is very smart, but they are taking advantage of a systemic inefficiency.

The idea of making cable subscribers jump through hoops or pay for additional packages in order to GIVE YOU THEIR MONEY is hilarious as far as the humor, but it's also kind of a sad statement about the business, and is frustrating when you consider that the pools would be larger and the purses better, and we'd see more racing in prime time.
__________________
Preparation. Discipline. Patience. Decisiveness.
Robert Fischer is offline   Reply With Quote Reply
Old 04-19-2015, 01:50 PM   #15
cj
@TimeformUSfigs
 
cj's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jan 2002
Location: Moore, OK
Posts: 46,151
Quote:
Originally Posted by Tom
GG must be Golden Goose.
Both channels seem to cater to it.

I seem to always be on the wrong channel.

Watching the prattle up to the CT race yesterday, then I go get a drink and come back to find they sent you to TVG for the race and I tune in halfway through it.

They should rename the network Where's Waldo.
I think it is pretty clear the Stronach tracks have gotten a huge boost from the merger, to the detriment of others.
cj is offline   Reply With Quote Reply
Reply




Thread Tools
Rate This Thread
Rate This Thread:

Posting Rules
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

BB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is Off

Forum Jump

» Advertisement
Powered by vBadvanced CMPS v3.2.3

All times are GMT -4. The time now is 03:24 AM.


Powered by vBulletin® Version 3.8.9
Copyright ©2000 - 2022, vBulletin Solutions, Inc.
Copyright 1999 - 2022 -- PaceAdvantage.Com -- All Rights Reserved
We are a participant in the Amazon Services LLC Associates Program, an affiliate advertising program
designed to provide a means for us to earn fees by linking to Amazon.com and affiliated sites.