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12-01-2019, 03:32 PM
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help with old track abbreviations
doing research for the Canadian Horse Racing Hall of Fame and am looking over some pp's around 1911-1915 and do not know which tracks go with these abbreviations...Anyone know? Thanks in advance.
Wnr, OW, Dor, DAl, Lxt, Lag
Thanks again
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12-01-2019, 05:24 PM
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Originally Posted by 46zilzal
doing research for the Canadian Horse Racing Hall of Fame and am looking over some pp's around 1911-1915 and do not know which tracks go with these abbreviations...Anyone know? Thanks in advance.
Wnr, OW, Dor, DAl, Lxt, Lag
Thanks again
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Could "Dor" be Dorval Park in Montreal?
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12-01-2019, 05:40 PM
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Could "Dor" be Dorval Park in Montreal?
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Quite possibly as it did open in 1914
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12-01-2019, 05:49 PM
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How far back are you going for pacelines?
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12-01-2019, 06:00 PM
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Originally Posted by Tom
How far back are you going for pacelines?
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1912 to 1915
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12-01-2019, 06:02 PM
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Also just noticed another one DoP????
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12-01-2019, 06:27 PM
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Originally Posted by 46zilzal
Also just noticed another one DoP????
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The DRF pps from that era don't use three letter abbreviations (but only covered a few major tracks in Canada). Maybe searching the DRF Archive ( https://drf.uky.edu/ ) for specific horses might get you a longer version of the track name.
Looking around there I see a Delorimier Park and a Dufferin Park mentioned in articles on Canadian racing dates, but neither of those would be DoP.
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12-01-2019, 07:00 PM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by 46zilzal
doing research for the Canadian Horse Racing Hall of Fame and am looking over some pp's around 1911-1915 and do not know which tracks go with these abbreviations...Anyone know? Thanks in advance.
Wnr, OW, Dor, DAl, Lxt, Lag
Thanks again
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Wnr - Windsor Jockey Club?
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12-01-2019, 07:10 PM
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Why not just send an email to the DRF for the abbreviations?
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12-01-2019, 08:08 PM
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Originally Posted by Frost king
Why not just send an email to the DRF for the abbreviations?
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ALREADY TRIED: no GO as I contacted them and they sent me Keeneland library phone number which I will call Monday.
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12-01-2019, 08:09 PM
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Wnr - Windsor Jockey Club?
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could be but the active track there in those days was Deauville
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12-01-2019, 10:04 PM
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Looks like you are doing some research on Pan Zareta.
Dal: Dallas (Texas)
DoP: Douglas Park (Kentucky)
Dor: Dorval (Quebec)
Lag: Lagoon (Utah)
Lxt: Lexington (Kentucky)
OW: Old Woodbine (Ontario)
Wnr: Windsor (Ontario)
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12-01-2019, 11:54 PM
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Why would anyone refer to Woodbine as OLD Woodbine, when it wasn't until 1956 that they moved?
In the 1910's there would be no reason to differentiate the two.
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12-02-2019, 08:58 AM
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Originally Posted by 46zilzal
Why would anyone refer to Woodbine as OLD Woodbine, when it wasn't until 1956 that they moved?
In the 1910's there would be no reason to differentiate the two.
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Maybe the pps you're looking at weren't produced until after the move. They clearly aren't DRF ones from the 1910s. Those didn't use three letter track abbreviations.
https://drf.uky.edu/catalog/1910s/dr...1915062701_3_3
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