Why? Because the USA has been steadily rotting from the inside 4 decades...that's why

[PaceAdvantage]

Originally Posted by PhantomOnTour

Perhaps the irony of Dave's post escaped you.
He tells someone to F**K OFF in bold face large type caps and then sarcastically calls someone else 'classy'.

I pointed out your irony in another thread (which went over your head too...kind of like TJ Dave's joke...did you read the second line of his post yet???).
See my signature.

Nothing escapes me, actually.

People who tell others to simmer down are lame.

[PhantomOnTour]

Originally Posted by PaceAdvantage

Nothing escapes me, actually.

People who tell others to simmer down are lame.

Sure, but did you read the second line of TJ Dave's joke ?

See your thread about how folks have zero self-awareness....I posted something like, "oh the irony" and you totally missed the fact that I was talking about you.
But nothing escapes you

[PaceAdvantage]

Originally Posted by PhantomOnTour

Sure, but did you read the second line of TJ Dave's joke ?

See your thread about how folks have zero self-awareness....I posted something like, "oh the irony" and you totally missed the fact that I was talking about you.
But nothing escapes you

Like I said, nothing escapes me.

[Tom]

Originally Posted by PaceAdvantage

this place is already a shell of its former self...it's practically dead already compared to 4 years ago...goal almost achieved...

Only one person can fix that.
If it bothers you so much, why not just shut down OT and leave the horse side?
You have a lot of dedicated harness players, lots going on in selections. We used to have good handicapping discussions, I would rather spend time doing that than OT. When someone starts a play along thread on a stakes day, we get people joining in with no notice. If we planned something, a contest, even without prizes, I bet we would get good turn out.

The place is worth saving.

[PaceAdvantage]

I was talking about Off-topic...but OK...whatever

[PhantomOnTour]

Originally Posted by Tom

Only one person can fix that.
If it bothers you so much, why not just shut down OT and leave the horse side?
You have a lot of dedicated harness players, lots going on in selections. We used to have good handicapping discussions, I would rather spend time doing that than OT. When someone starts a play along thread on a stakes day, we get people joining in with no notice. If we planned something, a contest, even without prizes, I bet we would get good turn out.

The place is worth saving.

I loved the handicapping talk...threads on class, figures, angles etc etc...

As much as I knock heads with you (Mike) and Tom...I think this is a good idea.
The Del-Toga contest was great. So were some of the other ones.
Prize or no prize, I still think it would be fun. We could have one race or one day contests and the winner gets to pick the next race or races & tries to defend his title. Hell I don't know, might be fun.
Look on the bright side...with me in the contest you know you won't finish last.

As for Off Topic...well, it's only the political talk that gets nasty. Sports and other topics are generally cordial.
It's your show bro, you make the call.

[thaskalos]

I came to this site in 2004, a broken man who had lost his wife to a dreaded disease a few months prior. I had moved to a new house, with a 5-year old son to take care of on my own...and I would spend many a sleepless night pacing the floor of my new surroundings, wondering how to put the pieces of my life back together again. It was during one of those sleepless nights that I stumbled upon this website...and I was intrigued to discover that a group of people would gather together daily to chat about a game that I was (and still am) very passionate about.

It took me two years to finally decide to start posting here...and once I did, this site became vital to me. It isn't an overstatement for me to say that our conversations here gave new meaning to my life, at a time when almost all of life's meaning suddenly seemed meaningless to me. I looked forward to our horseracing conversations here...and even our sometimes heated debates gave me a peculiar sort of joy without which I doubt that I would have been able to maintain my sanity during those trying times that I was then wrestling with. I personally derived a great benefit through my interaction with all of you here...and I now feel that it would be wrong of me to just drop out of this site without at least telling you how appreciative I am of the role that this site, and all of you individually, have played in my life. I thank you one and all.

PS...

Dave Schwartz has called me a "fucking freeloader", and a "bully"...and since I consider Dave to be a reasonable man, I must admit that there is at least a small chance that he might be right in his assessment of me. If there is anyone here who feels that he has either been taken advantage of, or been bullied, by me...then I owe this person a huge apology, because this type of behavior is the exact opposite from what I wanted to exhibit here.

PEACE!

[PhantomOnTour]

Originally Posted by thaskalos

I came to this site in 2004, a broken man who had lost his wife to a dreaded disease a few months prior. I had moved to a new house, with a 5-year old son to take care of on my own...and I would spend many a sleepless night pacing the floor of my new surroundings, wondering how to put the pieces of my life back together again. It was during one of those sleepless nights that I stumbled upon this website...and I was intrigued to discover that a group of people would gather together daily to chat about a game that I was (and still am) very passionate about.

It took me two years to finally decide to start posting here...and once I did, this site became vital to me. It isn't an overstatement for me to say that our conversations here gave new meaning to my life, at a time when almost all of life's meaning suddenly seemed meaningless to me. I looked forward to our horseracing conversations here...and even our sometimes heated debates gave me a peculiar sort of joy without which I doubt that I would have been able to maintain my sanity during those trying times that I was then wrestling with. I personally derived a great benefit through my interaction with all of you here...and I now feel that it would be wrong of me to just drop out of this site without at least telling you how appreciative I am of the role that this site, and all of you individually, have played in my life. I thank you one and all.

PS...

Dave Schwartz has called me a "fucking freeloader", and a "bully"...and since I consider Dave to be a reasonable man, I must admit that there is at least a small chance that he might be right in his assessment of me. If there is anyone here who feels that he has either been taken advantage of, or been bullied, by me...then I owe this person a huge apology, because this type of behavior is the exact opposite from what I wanted to exhibit here.

PEACE!

No need to apologize to any of us, especially Schwartz.
He's an SOB, and he sells a bunch of books & videos that aren't worth shit.

[PaceAdvantage]

Originally Posted by PhantomOnTour

No need to apologize to any of us, especially Schwartz.
He's an SOB, and he sells a bunch of books & videos that aren't worth shit.

Glad you left software off the list...it's his software that enabled me to post multiple 500 race profitable runs on this website...something that apparently used to impress some people when it was done the first time here (not by me).

Peace.

[Dave Schwartz]

No need to apologize to any of us, especially Schwartz.
He's an SOB, and he sells a bunch of books & videos that aren't worth shit.

Replying to this is a waste of time for me but will spend it only to create a comparison.

Dave Schwartz has called me a "fucking freeloader", and a "bully"...and since I consider Dave to be a reasonable man, I must admit that there is at least a small chance that he might be right in his assessment of me. If there is anyone here who feels that he has either been taken advantage of, or been bullied, by me...then I owe this person a huge apology, because this type of behavior is the exact opposite from what I wanted to exhibit here.

This, however, is a post that clearly comes from a man of honor & integrity, because any man who can make a choice to look at himself in the mirror, will, choose to improve that man.

(Does not mean that he has agreed with who I claimed he was.)

Thaskalos, I offer you a hand of peace and an apology for my misjudging you.

Welcome back.

Dave

[PaceAdvantage]

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[fast4522]

Originally Posted by thaskalos

PEACE!

First accept that Dave Schwartz description of you is his. Many men and women have had family get ill and die, it is a unfortunate part of life that has nothing to do with anything here. How fast PhantomOnTour is ready to attack Dave Schwartz is nothing new. Reviewing Dave Schwartz work suggests there is more than one way that works, and you guys are out to lunch.

[mountainman]

Tons of respect for both Dave and Gus. I call each of them friend and find them to be men of honor.

[elysiantraveller]

[Greyfox]

Originally Posted by thaskalos

I came to this site in 2004,...

I have always thought that you provided a lot of "meaningful food for thought" Thask! and hope that you will stay.