Derby Workouts

[menifee]

Really not impressed with Verrazano's workout at all. Please give me your thoughts - seemed that the jockey needed to get into him to catch up with the workmate who seemed to be going a lot smoother and easier over the track.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=r2UMmVU683k


Let me know your thoughts.


Revolutionary seemed to going much better on the rail with Borel.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2v-XGQjVcNQ

Normandy Invasion's work seemed so-so.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ltHV4VEdrXs

[letswastemoney]

Verrazano's workout looked fine to me. He didn't seem to be urged nearing the finish line and looked like he could have passed his workmate easily.

[plainolebill]

When I was looking at the advanced KD pps from bris last week I noticed that Mylute had worked a bullet 1:12 2/5 at CD two weeks after the Louisiana Derby which I thought was interesting because of the hard stretch drive.

I read on Haskin's blog that he'd galloped out in 1:25 and pulled up in 1:39.
There are 12 works showing in his bris pp and no bullets. Could be figuring it out and peaking at the right time.

I have no knowledge of Amoss' training methods, whether he works them fast or slow, but this seems like a very impressive work.

[MNslappy]

Anyone see video of Will Take Charge's work?

[MNslappy]

Originally Posted by menifee

Revolutionary seemed to going much better on the rail with Borel.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2v-XGQjVcNQ

Having watched the Withers again, man, it looks like Borel and this horse were made for each other, at least as far as the Derby is concerned.

[magwell]

Originally Posted by letswastemoney

Verrazano's workout looked fine to me. He didn't seem to be urged nearing the finish line and looked like he could have passed his workmate easily.

I agree. He looked just fine to me also......

[redshift1]

Originally Posted by menifee

Really not impressed with Verrazano's workout at all. Please give me your thoughts - seemed that the jockey needed to get into him to catch up with the workmate who seemed to be going a lot smoother and easier over the track.

Jill Byrne is one to watch for analysis she's very good at assessing appearance and performance in workouts. HRTV and Churchill Downs will be providing her commentary in days leading up to the derby.

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[lamboguy]

if you are sitting in behind a screen in your living room, i would play closer attention to the works that aren't so good. so you can almost listen to anyone on those works. horses that don't work good usually run bad.

in a field of 20, you can get anywhere up to 12 horses that train great. you will have to be able to compare that work to prior works that the horse had to measure improvement. when you get the horses that have the improvements you now have to be able to take that to the next step. for the Kentucky Derby that step is almost impossible to do unless you know and trust either the trainer, or assistant trainer or a groom. during this week the security is high and no one is letting you stroll around the backside to look at a derby horse to see if he is doing well in his stall.

[Striker]

Originally Posted by MNslappy

Anyone see video of Will Take Charge's work?

You can see the stretch part of it(last 30 seconds or so) on youtube or the kentucky derby website. He went 8f in 1:41 and 3/5 in company with Channel Isle thru 5.5f. The furlong fractions were 13.6, 26, 38.6, 51, 1:03.8, 1:16.8. 1:29.4, 1:41.6, and out in 1:56.2.

[CincyHorseplayer]

I really think the mile works are a sharp move.I don't know why we don't see it more often.That really set it off for me to bet Eight Belles under Big Brown.Big picture IMO is this gives them bottom end.

[Striker]

Originally Posted by CincyHorseplayer

I really think the mile works are a sharp move.I don't know why we don't see it more often.That really set it off for me to bet Eight Belles under Big Brown.Big picture IMO is this gives them bottom end.

Gotta think the 7 weeks off before the derby for WTC contributes to this strategy.

[Robert Fischer]

Verrazano's work was deceptively good.

Who was the workmate?

[redshift1]

Originally Posted by lamboguy

if you are sitting in behind a screen in your living room, i would play closer attention to the works that aren't so good. so you can almost listen to anyone on those works. horses that don't work good usually run bad.

in a field of 20, you can get anywhere up to 12 horses that train great. you will have to be able to compare that work to prior works that the horse had to measure improvement. when you get the horses that have the improvements you now have to be able to take that to the next step. for the Kentucky Derby that step is almost impossible to do unless you know and trust either the trainer, or assistant trainer or a groom. during this week the security is high and no one is letting you stroll around the backside to look at a derby horse to see if he is doing well in his stall.

Yes, IMO refusing to change leads, tossing the head and bearing out are usually automatic tosses unless they train that way normally.

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[MNslappy]

Originally Posted by Robert Fischer

Verrazano's work was deceptively good.

Who was the workmate?

6 year old GP mare Authenticity according to Twitter.

[depalma113]

Originally Posted by menifee

Really not impressed with Verrazano's workout at all. Please give me your thoughts - seemed that the jockey needed to get into him to catch up with the workmate who seemed to be going a lot smoother and easier over the track.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=r2UMmVU683k


Let me know your thoughts.


Revolutionary seemed to going much better on the rail with Borel.

Revolutionary was trained to come up the rail, but his changing of leads in the stretch was not professional at all.