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Old 05-20-2023, 02:52 PM   #16
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According to NOAA Sea levels have risen 8-9 inches. I guess they are lying.To prove this to you they would have had to take a picture 100 years ago.

I see plenty of photographic proof of effect of drought on lake and river levels going way back, there are nice clear pictures of the water level at Hoover Dam from 1940 you can easily make a visual judgement that the water is at the claimed level compared to today. Yet no such evidence exists proving sea level rise.


Another issue is all the so called experts are all over the place with their claims of sea level rise past it makes it obvious it is nothing but guesswork using modeling.


When I take someone to task for promoting false information like when Cliffy claimed charging electric cars had little impact on the grid, I used solid facts and hard numbers harvested from my knowledge of electricity and I called on anyone to prove me wrong.



Of course as you and Cliffy both do, you argue with insults and claims pulled from your "trusted'" sources of which many are wrong.



Do you trust the NTSB? That is my favorite recent example of government investigative ineptness. They reported that the East Palestine train derailment was caused my a failed wheel bearing. Freight tankers and cars don't have wheel bearings. Any rail yard maintenance mechanic, or even a podunk machine shop owner like me could have told them that.



Also the study of man made climate change and combating it's so called wrath of destruction is big business. A lot of tax payer money go toward it.
Do you really think scientists would kill their cash cow?
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Old 05-20-2023, 02:54 PM   #17
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Article is dated in 2015. Gasoline was 2.75 a gallon at the time of printing
https://gasprices.aaa.com/state-gas-price-averages/
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Old 05-20-2023, 02:59 PM   #18
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Again, you and half smoke are referring to todays gasoline prices. I posted an article dated 2015 when gasoline actually averaged 2.43 per gallon for that year.
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Old 05-20-2023, 03:10 PM   #19
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the cause of 8 homes in Norway being swept into the sea is given as being a landslide

the risks of landslides increase due to climate change according to multiple sources


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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DopB8CtSn3E





really - I paid $3.90 per gallon of regular yesterday

according to the link the average price of a gallon on May 15, 2023 was $3.64


https://ycharts.com/indicators/us_ga...e%20year%20ago.


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Link to the article I got information from. It references 2015 actual costs.
https://www.newsbusters.org/blogs/sc...te-change-june
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Old 05-20-2023, 03:35 PM   #20
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Again, you and half smoke are referring to todays gasoline prices. I posted an article dated 2015 when gasoline actually averaged 2.43 per gallon for that year.
I wasn't referring to anything thought I could be helpful Guy said he paid 3.90 which is within top 10 WORST prices in country right now. Unlucky.
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Old 05-21-2023, 01:22 PM   #21
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😂. Thanks for the lesson... I realize I need to be quite clear. They didn't know Climate change was a thing 100 years ago and you would be requesting a picture. But to your point beaches are eroding and that can't be disputed. I think you are looking for higher water picture? Wouldn't pictures of smaller beaches be what uou really want to prove ocean is rising...

https://www.usgs.gov/media/images/co...stal%20erosion.
The oceans have been rising and falling for billions of years and it will continue to do so for billions of years more. Getting rid of your gas stove isn't going to change that, sorry to have to tell you that.
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Old 05-21-2023, 01:36 PM   #22
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The oceans have been rising and falling for billions of years and it will continue to do so for billions of years more. Getting rid of your gas stove isn't going to change that, sorry to have to tell you that.
I'll give you a million dollars if you find a post where I said I favored getting rid of gas stoves. I think it is absurd. I tend to think logically about each issue and my positions vary widely. I know that is hard for those that watch their propaganda of choice to fathom that.

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Old 05-21-2023, 01:40 PM   #23
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The oceans have been rising and falling for billions of years and it will continue to do so for billions of years more. Getting rid of your gas stove isn't going to change that, sorry to have to tell you that.
are you talking about tides due to the pull from the moon or the waves from the wind?


at least the green new deal is outsourcing jobs and required components to CHINA
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Old 05-22-2023, 04:04 PM   #24
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Whatever the truth is, we should all know by now the leadership of the left is very comfortable lying and exaggerating because they think the rest of us are morons that won't do the right thing unless we are terrified or forced into submission using totalitarian measures. The problem is that it often turns out they are the morons.
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Old 05-24-2023, 05:13 AM   #25
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dim wits believe in MAGIC

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Old 05-24-2023, 06:24 AM   #26
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Do all Dimwits believe this? Can someone have conservative leanings and also be Anti-MAGA? Can someone see a Pedophile Catholic priest without concluding ALL Catholics are pedophiles? We are fucked as a country when such ridiculous binary thinking is applied. We are fucking letting the tail of both parties wag the dog.
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Old 05-24-2023, 06:57 AM   #27
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Do all Dimwits believe this? Can someone have conservative leanings and also be Anti-MAGA? Can someone see a Pedophile Catholic priest without concluding ALL Catholics are pedophiles? We are fucked as a country when such ridiculous binary thinking is applied. We are fucking letting the tail of both parties wag the dog.

there are quite a few people who believe that the U.S. Government is inherently evil

and that everything that comes from it, especially when their party is not in power is horribly wrong

what the Government's motivation in putting out all of this misinformation is unclear

I guess many feel that the Government just wants to f*** things up - that that's how they get their jollies

my personal belief:

it's healthy to be skeptical and questioning of Government programs

but its wrong to believe that just because something comes from the Government that it's necessarily b.s.


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Old 05-24-2023, 08:18 AM   #28
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Can someone have conservative leanings and also be Anti-MAGA?
Not in this day and age. The left has become extreme...thus, it's no surprise a counter-extremism arose on the right...namely, what you like to call MAGA.

You're either part of the solution or part of the problem. It's totally binary at this point.
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institutional fear mongering keeps the government grants coming in ...
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institutional fear mongering keeps the government grants coming in ...
and foreign 'aid' with corruption kickbacks to a few ....
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