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04-07-2023, 02:18 PM
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To take this kind of logic to its conclusion, does this mean that no judge, who is a member of an opposition party or who donated to an opposition party, should ever reside over a politically-charged case wherein the defendant is not a member of the judge's party of preference? This can get pretty ridiculous. For $15., this guy is suppose to recuse himself? 
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04-07-2023, 06:07 PM
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To take this kind of logic to its conclusion, does this mean that no judge, who is a member of an opposition party or who donated to an opposition party, should ever reside over a politically-charged case wherein the defendant is not a member of the judge's party of preference? This can get pretty ridiculous. For $15., this guy is suppose to recuse himself? |
Not in most cases but this case is different. Its the former President who ran against Biden
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04-07-2023, 07:01 PM
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To take this kind of logic to its conclusion, does this mean that no judge, who is a member of an opposition party or who donated to an opposition party, should ever reside over a politically-charged case wherein the defendant is not a member of the judge's party of preference? This can get pretty ridiculous. For $15., this guy is suppose to recuse himself? |
A voice of reason from right field. Shocked I say…
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04-07-2023, 08:54 PM
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Originally Posted by boxcar
To take this kind of logic to its conclusion, does this mean that no judge, who is a member of an opposition party or who donated to an opposition party, should ever reside over a politically-charged case wherein the defendant is not a member of the judge's party of preference? This can get pretty ridiculous. For $15., this guy is suppose to recuse himself? |
As a presumed conservative/republican, would even you want this judge presiding over a case that you were involved in? There is more to his left-leaning bias than just a $15 donation to Biden's campaign. It's pretty much a family affair and most likely deeper.
Azeri98 is correct, here. At the highly-visible level of the presidency, it is imperative that extreme measures be taken to preserve the perception of evenhanded justice.
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04-07-2023, 10:31 PM
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Originally Posted by MargieRose
As a presumed conservative/republican, would even you want this judge presiding over a case that you were involved in? There is more to his left-leaning bias than just a $15 donation to Biden's campaign. It's pretty much a family affair and most likely deeper.
Azeri98 is correct, here. At the highly-visible level of the presidency, it is imperative that extreme measures be taken to preserve the perception of evenhanded justice.
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You don’t think a judge can set aside whatever bias you may think he has to rule on behalf of justice?
I give him more credit than that. I would feel the same about a conservative justice.
If we can’t trust the judiciary then we’re fu*ked as a people.
I choose not to go down that road.
Judicial review will level the playing field.
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04-07-2023, 11:15 PM
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You don’t think a judge can set aside whatever bias you may think he has to rule on behalf of justice?
I give him more credit than that. I would feel the same about a conservative justice.
If we can’t trust the judiciary then we’re fu*ked as a people.
I choose not to go down that road.
Judicial review will level the playing field.
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Actually, in this current-day political pressure-cooker and with this particular former president, NO!
IMO, if this were a judge with unbiased and fair intentions, he himself would suggest that, at the least, the venue be moved. He' surely not a stupid man.
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04-08-2023, 12:09 AM
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Originally Posted by TJDave
You don’t think a judge can set aside whatever bias you may think he has to rule on behalf of justice?
I give him more credit than that. I would feel the same about a conservative justice.
If we can’t trust the judiciary then we’re fu*ked as a people.
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They've been fucking us as a people for DECADES....you still don't get it.
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04-08-2023, 01:23 AM
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They've been fucking us as a people for DECADES....you still don't get it.
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Drama Queen.
I live a good life. Never been f**ked around by the justice system. My guess is that you haven’t either.
Who are you trying to kid?
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04-08-2023, 06:37 AM
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You have to understand him when he says the country is dead. He lives New York specifically (Moscow on the Hudson) to steal from another published thing in another thread. There is no remedy in sight for that place, other places in these United States are stable or so divided there is hope.
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04-08-2023, 11:46 AM
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Originally Posted by TJDave
You don’t think a judge can set aside whatever bias you may think he has to rule on behalf of justice?
I give him more credit than that. I would feel the same about a conservative justice.
If we can’t trust the judiciary then we’re fu*ked as a people.
I choose not to go down that road.
Judicial review will level the playing field.
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Did you see the victory celebration of the Wisconsin Supreme Court winner this week? Is there any reason to think any of those women would set aside their biases under any circumstances? I'm going with No.
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04-08-2023, 12:49 PM
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Originally Posted by fast4522
You have to understand him when he says the country is dead. He lives New York specifically (Moscow on the Hudson) to steal from another published thing in another thread. There is no remedy in sight for that place, other places in these United States are stable or so divided there is hope.
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Both California and New York are screwed, it seems they are both on the same page with eliminating natural gas. California is doomed because of that, not sure how well New York will handle it.
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04-08-2023, 01:52 PM
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Originally Posted by azeri98
Not in most cases but this case is different. Its the former President who ran against Biden
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So then...who exactly would qualify to sit in judgment of this case? A Republican who didn't vote for Trump? A Republican who did vote for Trump but didn't donate? A dimwit who voted for Biden but didn't make a donation? Or do we search high and low for an "independent" who voted for whom exactly in the last election?
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04-08-2023, 01:53 PM
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Originally Posted by MargieRose
As a presumed conservative/republican, would even you want this judge presiding over a case that you were involved in? There is more to his left-leaning bias than just a $15 donation to Biden's campaign. It's pretty much a family affair and most likely deeper.
Azeri98 is correct, here. At the highly-visible level of the presidency, it is imperative that extreme measures be taken to preserve the perception of evenhanded justice.
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See my reply to Azeri.
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04-08-2023, 02:01 PM
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Originally Posted by MargieRose
Actually, in this current-day political pressure-cooker and with this particular former president, NO!
IMO, if this were a judge with unbiased and fair intentions, he himself would suggest that, at the least, the venue be moved. He' surely not a stupid man.
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Hah...now this is something with which I can agree.
However, there is a sense in which this judge is "stupid", as he is very likely not a born again believer in Christ. As such, he's spiritually dead and he very likely would not be motivated to take the high moral/spiritual road here which would be to abstain from the [mere] appearance of all evil (1Thess 5:22:24)
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