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PhantomOnTour · 03-21-2013, 10:05 PM

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I ask this because of a losing bet (

) on Chasing Moonlight in the 5th at Aqu today.

Well, guess who's back Friday at Aqu in R1, and not surprisingly with a jock switch ?

MightBeSosa · 03-21-2013, 11:15 PM

3x in a row Awesome Vision doesn't switch, and he still closes like a freight train.

Stillriledup · 03-22-2013, 05:42 AM

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Well, guess who's back Friday at Aqu in R1, and not surprisingly with a jock switch ?

The one time DC rode him on Feb 7th, he put in his lowest dirt beyer on his PPs and threw in a clunker. Not sure what that means, but if he's even money, i'd pass.

PhantomOnTour · 03-22-2013, 12:54 PM

Switched leads easily under Cohen and cruised on the class drop at 3-4 odds.
Realistically, he was dropping to his proper level imo

Last time was the time to bet him at 7-2 in a four horse field...thought he was going by them easily that day.

Stillriledup · 03-22-2013, 12:56 PM

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Switched leads easily under Cohen and cruised on the class drop at 3-4 odds.
Realistically, he was dropping to his proper level imo

Got set up by a nice duel too.

Track looks "different" today than yesterday's ..LOOKS "dusty" for lack of a better word. Speed was holding yesterday, hopefully today is more fair.

Stillriledup · 03-22-2013, 12:57 PM

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Switched leads easily under Cohen and cruised on the class drop at 3-4 odds.
Realistically, he was dropping to his proper level imo

Dont you just love seeing a horse crush the field the week after you need him for your lungs?

PhantomOnTour · 03-22-2013, 12:59 PM

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Dont you just love seeing a horse crush the field the week after you need him for your lungs?

No kiddin'...that last race hurt as my only play that day was a big win bet.
7-2 was good value...oh well, it's a tough game

Stillriledup · 03-28-2013, 02:58 AM

POT, Chasing Moonlight entered on March 29th at Big A. He's 7-5 ML and from my first glance, he ought to be able to win again. His main competition is the Parx horse imo. The Persaud horse hasnt raced since feb 18th and since Persaud runs every horse in his barn every 4 days, this one missing since Feb 18 is a huge red flag for me. Seems like CM is the only real 'closer' in this race, hopefully he can sit behind a bunch of duelers and pick them all up.

(of course, if you bet him, he'll probably get a great trip, fail to switch leads and lose by two necks at the wire

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chadk66 · 03-28-2013, 09:38 AM

As a former trainer, switching leads is extremely important. The biggest reason is that horses tire on their leads. If a horse doesn't switch leads down the lane and then finally does, he'll move up three to four lengths just from doing that. Switching leads is something I watch for every single race. If you do that you'll see that a horse on the wrong lead will hang in the stretch and if they finally do switch they re-fire again. Alot of horses will not switch until they get so tired they have to. That's a little dangerous for the horse.

Hosshead · 03-28-2013, 04:15 PM

A horse that is good at changing leads is also a good bet when switching to a bullring track because they have to change leads more times during a race. For example in S. Calif when they go to Pomona.

PhantomOnTour · 09-11-2013, 11:46 PM

Chasing Moonlight wins easily today at overlaid odds...and didn't switch leads in the lane.
That 3-5 chalk was a total sucker bet...he had just run the gamut of Pletcher, Rudy Rod, Jacobson and Ness...what could possibly be left of this horse?

To top it off - he was vanned off last time....now 3-5 odds !?

iceknight · 09-12-2013, 01:18 AM

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Chasing Moonlight wins easily today at overlaid odds...and didn't switch leads in the lane.
That 3-5 chalk was a total sucker bet...he had just run the gamut of Pletcher, Rudy Rod, Jacobson and Ness...what could possibly be left of this horse?

To top it off - he was vanned off last time....now 3-5 odds !?

what was the backstretch "buzz" on this?

Stillriledup · 09-12-2013, 01:20 AM

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Chasing Moonlight wins easily today at overlaid odds...and didn't switch leads in the lane.
That 3-5 chalk was a total sucker bet...he had just run the gamut of Pletcher, Rudy Rod, Jacobson and Ness...what could possibly be left of this horse?

To top it off - he was vanned off last time....now 3-5 odds !?

I had an interesting note on him last time, i thought he raced well but didnt seem to be effective on the front end, i was thinking he might be better covered and you're right, you can't take 3-5 on a van off dropper like that...sometimes van offs win, but you can't eat 3-5 on them.

holmmd · 09-12-2013, 08:21 AM

Always wondered - should a horse be on its right or left lead in the stretch? Always thought it was right lead but vast majority of horses in replays I watch are on left. Is it any different for sprint vs route (i.e. Is it still important to switch in a sprint given shorter trip)?

chadk66 · 09-12-2013, 09:57 PM

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Always wondered - should a horse be on its right or left lead in the stretch? Always thought it was right lead but vast majority of horses in replays I watch are on left. Is it any different for sprint vs route (i.e. Is it still important to switch in a sprint given shorter trip)?

right lead on the straights, left lead in the turns.