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07-08-2014, 08:37 PM
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Gatewood (Mtn, Race 5, July 8) by about 100 lengths.
This has to be the greatest performance in the history of thoroughbred racing by a 5k claimer.
Onward and upward.
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07-08-2014, 09:21 PM
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Speed and fade last out finishing dead last
Peter berry said on twitter the clearest winner in 25,000 races he's called...20 plus lengths and could have been 40
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07-08-2014, 09:46 PM
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It was incredible, it was essentially a 40 length win, you rarely see that at any track, ever.
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07-08-2014, 09:47 PM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by tanner12oz
Speed and fade last out finishing dead last
Peter berry said on twitter the clearest winner in 25,000 races he's called...20 plus lengths and could have been 40
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PB on Twitter:
https://twitter.com/peterberry57
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07-09-2014, 01:04 AM
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So buzzer or drugs?
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07-09-2014, 04:32 AM
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So buzzer or drugs?
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Maybe he's just a pretty good horse and the light went on. Maybe it was mental and the horse always had the talent and was finally able to show it. He's by Tiz Wonderful who is a son of Tiznow who was a very freaky talented horse, but a head case at times, maybe this horse just decided tonight was the night to freak out, maybe he was always this good and put it all together.
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07-09-2014, 06:26 AM
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Anyone pick him up for the tag?
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07-09-2014, 09:24 AM
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Anyone pick him up for the tag?
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No, he wasn't claimed.
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07-09-2014, 12:03 PM
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I loved the comment "Gatewood, looking like Germany vs Brazil today.."
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07-09-2014, 05:30 PM
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it was essentially a 40 length win,
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No. It wasn't. With all respect, sir, that's complete and utter nonsense.
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07-09-2014, 06:16 PM
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No. It wasn't. With all respect, sir, that's complete and utter nonsense.
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Hmmmm, i clocked him at 40 to the good...maybe my clock is broken.
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07-10-2014, 05:06 PM
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Hmmmm, i clocked him at 40 to the good...maybe my clock is broken.
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Here's a thought on how Gatewood might have doubled that 21 L margin: instead of 11 and change to the six-call..he could have hit it in 1:07 (and still, of course, duplicated his actual come-home fraction)..or, how about this? Since there was soooooo much left in the tank late, he could have run the last 70 yards in 4/5 of a second (instead of his actual 4.91). Or how about a first-half in 42?? Or opening quarter in 19 and change? Since the horse could have run that much faster, I'll remember to add 40 points to whatever beyer he is assigned..and in that manner get a "true" gauge of his ability.
Here is a novel thought for you: Had Gatewood been urged, or allowed, to set faster splits, his final time would have been SLOWER, not quicker. And reserve energy through the stretch is always less that it appears when horses romp to wide-margin wins. Some even LIKE running against the bit, or under a snug hold. When a horse is indeed full of run, such restraint only ENCOURAGES them to go faster. Rerun Tuesday's race, throw gatewood's head away at about the 3/16 pole, let the jock start beating him, and see how fast all that reserve energy and burning desire evaporate.
A front-running t-bred will NEVER run faster than when it is far in front and appears to be coasting. They are mentally fragile creatures that thrive on confidence and require rationing.
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07-10-2014, 05:16 PM
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Here's a thought on how Gatewood might have doubled that 21 L margin: instead of 11 and change to the six-call..he could have hit it in 1:07 (and still, of course, duplicated his actual come-home fraction)..or, how about this? Since there was soooooo much left in the tank late, he could have run the last 70 yards in 4/5 of a second (instead of his actual 4.91). Or how about a first-half in 42?? Or opening quarter in 19 and change? Since the horse could have run that much faster, I'll remember to add 40 points to whatever beyer he is assigned..and in that manner get a "true" gauge of his ability.
Here is a novel thought for you: Had Gatewood been urged, or allowed, to set faster splits, his final time would have been SLOWER, not quicker. And reserve energy through the stretch is always less that it appears when horses romp to wide-margin wins. Some even LIKE running against the bit, or under a snug hold. When a horse is indeed full of run, such restraint only ENCOURAGES them to go faster. Rerun Tuesday's race, throw gatewood's head away at about the 3/16 pole, let the jock start beating him, and see how fast all that reserve energy and burning desire evaporate.
A front-running t-bred will NEVER run faster than when it is far in front and appears to be coasting. They are mentally fragile creatures that thrive on confidence and require rationing.
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PB said he could have won by a lot more. He also said "a mile in front". Last i checked, a mile was 5,280 feet which is considerably longer than 40 lengths.
Don't feel bad, you should be tickled that a horse this good is racing at Mountaineer, he's a star and there are no two ways about it.
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07-10-2014, 06:05 PM
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07-10-2014, 06:21 PM
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He was absolutely strangled the entire lane, even if the guy just hand rode him, even if it was a mild hand ride with no whip and he kept this guy on his task, he would have won by close to 40.
He's not Secretariat, but he's pretty close.
Oh, maybe not....but, you stlll rarely see margins of victory this large with horses just on idle the entire stretch.
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