House Intel Committee

[davew]

Originally Posted by Tom

shut up, McCain and go home.
YOU serve no American interest anymore.
Thanks for your service, but

Dismissed. Don't let the hit door hit your ass on the way out.

don't forget that McCain was an anti-trumper and his last campaign gave some money to Steele for the 'dossier'

[boxcar]

Originally Posted by elysiantraveller

We don't know that.

According to Nunes it was an essential part but then his report goes on to state that the Papadopolous memos were also integral and that the FISA on Carter Page did yield separate findings on three different occasions to extend the warrant and provide grounds for probable cause.

This was a highly partisan piece maybe to combat a partisan DOJ and investigation but we simply don't know everything. Nor do I really think the public should in these matters. Even absolute worst case this is a partisan investigation is whacking people that broke the law.

If this investigation wraps up and a couple of low hanging fruit get time for breaking the law who really cares?

We the public don't control the flow of information and the White House is putting out what they want us to see at this time.

Ahh...so you're a BUT(T) Monkey, heh? They were essential...BUT...

If the Papadopolous memos were so important -- actually essential to the FISA warrant -- we'd be talking about those memos as opposed to the Steele dossier or at least talking about both of them. And if they were so important, those memos would have been made public by that horrible, disgusting partisan IOC chaired by Nunez. Why would the IOC withhold that info from us. Trump signed off on the memo's release but sent it back to Congress to give them the final say.

Oh wait...I know what's going on -- that Papadopolous stuff is Schiff's secret weapon -- it's the Dem's memo. I can't wait until the smug, self-righteous, holier-than-thou dimwits save the country by releasing their memo.

[elysiantraveller]

Originally Posted by boxcar

Ahh...so you're a BUT(T) Monkey, heh? They were essential...BUT...

If the Papadopolous memos were so important -- actually essential to the FISA warrant -- we'd be talking about those memos as opposed to the Steele dossier or at least talking about both of them. And if they were so important, those memos would have been made public by that horrible, disgusting partisan IOC chaired by Nunez. Why would the IOC withhold that info from us. Trump signed off on the memo's release but sent it back to Congress to give them the final say.

Oh wait...I know what's going on -- that Papadopolous stuff is Schiff's secret weapon -- it's the Dem's memo. I can't wait until the smug, self-righteous, holier-than-thou dimwits save the country by releasing their memo.

I'm really not taking sides in this but the Nunes memo states that the Papadapolous memo was a reason behind the FISA as well.

It's in there. It says it.

I'm not really surprised by what's in the memo as now I'm more curious about what's not. That said I hope we don't get a Democrat memo because I really don't like this level of partisanship. In a perfect world this investigation would be allowed to just go about it's business and release it's findings at the end. The Administration says nothing will be found so just let them go about their business.

In the end it so far has a few people who obviously broke the law. That's still a good thing right?

[fast4522]

Originally Posted by elysiantraveller

What conspiracy? I'm honestly just asking.

Trickle down corruption of the law, and it still was not enough to stop the Trump train. The backwash felt by liberals, socialist, and commies will be felt in legislation for years to come.

[boxcar]

Originally Posted by elysiantraveller

I'm really not taking sides in this but the Nunes memo states that the Papadapolous memo was a reason behind the FISA as well.

It's in there. It says it.

I'm not really surprised by what's in the memo as now I'm more curious about what's not. That said I hope we don't get a Democrat memo because I really don't like this level of partisanship. In a perfect world this investigation would be allowed to just go about it's business and release it's findings at the end. The Administration says nothing will be found so just let them go about their business.

In the end it so far has a few people who obviously broke the law. That's still a good thing right?

Who should go about their business doing what? You mean Mueller should continue to investigate Trump until the cows drop dead trying to get home? And Trump should be investigated for what crime, specifically? (You do know that special counsels, by law, are supposed be very restricted into what they are investigating?) So, what should Trump be investigated for: Colluding with the Russians? If after all this time, they haven't come up with anything on Trump, you expect they will by what the end of the year? The end of 2019? During the 2020 elections? And what if Trump gets reelected? Keep letting the do its business, right? Maybe you can buy Mueller a few litter boxes for the next few years, along with replacement kitty litter, so that he can feel comfortable doing his business.

[boxcar]

Originally Posted by davew

Dan Bongino ties most of it together, but it is too complicated for the dim americans to understand. It shows how the DNC, 0bama and top national security workers used FISA to help divert attention away from their illegal actions and try to pin it on Trump to get him out before their treachery exposed...

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5aA28yI4i5A&t=3511s

Dave, I'm about 80% through Bongino's show. Fascinating stuff! I think one could easily surmise that Bongino has provided quite a bit of the material facts that were omitted in the "memo" -- unless of course, one is led to believe in an unbelievably long string of coincidences.

[FantasticDan]

Twitter

[chadk66]

supposedly this memo is only about 10% of what is going to eventually be shown to the american people. The question now is whether or not the FISA judge comes after those in the FBI that committed fraud in obtaining the warrants on at least three occasions. I will go out on a limb and say they will seek to prosecute these individuals to regain trust in the FISA system. And honestly it's the right thing to do. Another big question is how many will be sent packing at the FBI by monday. I'm guessing at least three will be gone. Rosenstein will probably be gone also. But that may be a couple weeks. How soon the case gets reopened on Hillary will also be very interesting. And I will be totally amazed if that doesn't happen. For all intents and purposes Mueller is done. Just a matter of getting his office cleared out. Boy the next couple months are going to be totally awesome. The Swamp is being drained at a very rapid pace now folks. What's rather amazing is that Trump knew how deep the swamp was.

[JustRalph]

Chad

You have way too much confidence in Sessions.

Mueller will indict somebody. He’s the last great hope of the left. Trump should have fired him weeks ago.

The public saw through all the shit during the election. Hopefully they will see through the media lies.

The reputation of the FBI and Justice will suffer most.

But Sessions could rehabilitate the Justice Dept. by locking up some high profile types on the left. Including media members who were complicit. Isikoff im sure is talking to a lawyer.

Lots of people taking the fifth in the coming two years or so.

[FantasticDan]

Twitter

[chadk66]

your gonna see a huge fire lit under sessions ass and if he doesn't perform he goes down the swamp drain. I think Trumps done pissing around now. The gloves are coming off.

[chadk66]

Originally Posted by FantasticDan

https://twitter.com/markwarner/statu...85844011864065

guess what. very soon were all gonna get to read those underlying pages. the cries from the left are totally meaningless at this point.

[davew]

wow, none of it is true... I can't wait for the dim version that they threaten to release (but probably won't because it threatens national security).

https://www.thedailybeast.com/source...st+Articles%29

[fast4522]

Originally Posted by JustRalph

Chad

You have way too much confidence in Sessions.

Mueller will indict somebody. He’s the last great hope of the left. Trump should have fired him weeks ago.

The public saw through all the shit during the election. Hopefully they will see through the media lies.

The reputation of the FBI and Justice will suffer most.

But Sessions could rehabilitate the Justice Dept. by locking up some high profile types on the left. Including media members who were complicit. Isikoff im sure is talking to a lawyer.

Lots of people taking the fifth in the coming two years or so.

JR,

Do not be surprised if the #2 at DOJ himself shuts down Mueller, there is more to come that is bad suggesting everything done so far was unlawful because the FISA court was misused. There will be an extreme effort to blanket further damage, Sessions will meet with everyone at the DOJ that has input in how to blanket it without breaking the law and possibly dismissing charges as a preemptive solution for lawsuits that will follow. I expect that secret court will go after infractions, I don't know how but think things might be swift.

[reckless]

Originally Posted by davew

don't forget that McCain was an anti-trumper and his last campaign gave some money to Steele for the 'dossier'

And you can add GOP clowns David French and John Kasich, plus Mark Warner -- Trump bashers and cowards -- of whom our very own Fan Dan provided us their 'advise and commentary'.