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02-02-2018, 09:57 AM
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The Voice of Reason!
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OK, we have to get this whole thing under control.
POTUS Tuesday,
The memo maybe today?
Super Bowl Sunday,
More memes next week?
Let's ration this stuff out - we have a long winter left and we can only take so much jubilation every week!
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02-02-2018, 10:14 AM
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#137
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The memo will show more 'transparency' of the 0bama administration and how they weaponized the 'national security' leadership
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02-02-2018, 11:45 AM
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#138
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unredacted memo is being sent back to House with Trump's approval. We should know this afternoon what is in the memo.
Score one for the good guys!! 
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02-02-2018, 12:02 PM
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#139
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gelding
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02-02-2018, 12:03 PM
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#140
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Quote:
Originally Posted by woodtoo
Ground hog day is a day of reckoning, will he see his shadow government?
The tears of the swamp runneth over.  |
Rise and shine! It's daylight in the swamp!
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02-02-2018, 12:41 PM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Big Russ
Rise and shine! It's daylight in the swamp!
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And we already know that the dems put all their little eggies into one basket -- the Clinton ordered and bought "Steele dossier" - in order to obtain the FISA warrant. This is the same dossier that has never been corroborated, verified or confirmed.
Yes, the sun is coming up brightly in the Swamp and we're going to see a lot of [morally] butt ugly creatures.
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02-02-2018, 01:36 PM
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gelding
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02-02-2018, 01:37 PM
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gelding
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02-02-2018, 01:53 PM
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Mad as hell !
Join Date: Dec 2015
Location: Bridgeport, CT
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Originally Posted by FantasticDan
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Gotta give it to Kimmel, he's good in explaining things in layman's terms. This whole thing is so screwy that we take the easy way out and just throw our hands up and go according to our party affiliation.
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02-02-2018, 01:54 PM
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Quintessential guru
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Originally Posted by FantasticDan
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An even more specious justification. Hearsay to the nth degree is not justification to violate an American citizen's 4th amendment rights.
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02-02-2018, 02:01 PM
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Veteran
Join Date: Jun 2002
Location: near Philadelphia
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Originally Posted by FantasticDan
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I hope you and Rachel Maddow know that Papadopoulos and Carter Page were both very insignificant and quite minor-figures in the Trump campaign and transition teams.
I wouldn't want you to feel embarrassed or down-right silly when both of you are exposed for knowing so very little in this absurd get-Trump farce.
Just looking out for your best interests, FanDan. 
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02-02-2018, 02:01 PM
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Quintessential guru
Join Date: Mar 2001
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Nutz and Boltz
Gotta give it to Kimmel, he's good in explaining things in layman's terms. This whole thing is so screwy that we take the easy way out and just throw our hands up and go according to our party affiliation.
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This is not a party affiliation problem. This is about all American citizens.
It is about the standard used to set aside American citizens' Constitutional rights and the protection of those rights. Acquiring a warrant based on unverified political opposition research cited as probable cause is abuse of the right to privacy.
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A free people ought not only to be armed, but disciplined; to which end a uniform and well-digested plan is requisite; and their safety and interest require that they should promote such manufactories as tend to render them independent of others for essential, particularly military, supplies.
George Washington
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02-02-2018, 02:20 PM
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well Mueller can pack up his shit and head for home. and the FBI cleansing can begin.
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02-02-2018, 02:25 PM
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I'm honestly failing to see what the big deal in this memo is...
Even Chris Wallace at Fox News says it doesn't amount to much and is omitting too much to be much more than a political hit piece.
Wasn't the Papadopolous issue what kicked off the FBI anyway?
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02-02-2018, 02:27 PM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Show Me the Wire
It is about the standard used to set aside American citizens' Constitutional rights and the protection of those rights. Acquiring a warrant based on unverified political opposition research cited as probable cause is abuse of the right to privacy.
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This is the big point here, at least so far. The issue is the slimy process used to get the FISA warrant. It seems clear that the warrant would not have been obtained without the Steele dossier. The DOJ and the FBI knew that the dossier was opposition research paid for by the Democrats, but did not disclose that origin in the FISA application.
The FISA Application also cited a Michael Isikoff article (Yahoo News) as "corroborating information" for the Steele dossier, knowing that the Isikoff article was based on information leaked to Isikoff by Steele.
After getting the warrant, the FBI fired Steele for breaking rules of confidentiality, but continued to use the dossier as evidence to get extensions on the warrant.
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