RIP to Mongolian Groom and CA Racing

[AltonKelsey]

Originally Posted by GMB@BP

3 on two surfaces.

But the issue is Santa Anita...nothing to see here.

Sad


And the guy who has to spot edit the replays, underpaid.

[horsefan2019]

I watched those races where the horses pulled up and knew it was gonna be bad news for Del Mar today. With the media attention, it really doesn't matter what track they race at these days in California. I knew it was bad news when they didn't bother to replay it and cut away to another track.

[FenceBored]

Originally Posted by horsefan2019

I watched those races where the horses pulled up and knew it was gonna be bad news for Del Mar today. With the media attention, it really doesn't matter what track they race at these days in California. I knew it was bad news when they didn't bother to replay it and cut away to another track.

How can it be bad news if DRF, Bloodhorse, and the Paulick Report have no mention of the incidents?

[Hambletonian]

Horse racing has never been good for the horses, but the rise of slots-infused purses has greatly worsened the situation.

It makes far more economic sense to run a horse into the ground than to rest them up. And the nonsense about the average horse being treated well is just nonsense. The vast majority of horses are treated in a way to maximize financial returns, not to ensure a soft post career landing or long term health and welfare of the equine athlete.

There were always be breakdowns, shit happens, but the industry needs to take steps to minimize them. No raceday medication would be a start, stringent pre and post race vet inspections to remove compromised horses from the pool of race horses would also go a long way-even acknowledging that horses "banned" from racing may not have a long and happy life ahead of them.

Changes will be made or the sport has no future. The public has no tolerance for it, and now they are very, very aware of something we all have been for a very long time. Since the economic returns from racing are so low, it is only a matter of time.

[GMB@BP]

Originally Posted by Hambletonian

It makes far more economic sense to run a horse into the ground than to rest them up.

except on a per start basis, at just about every track in NA, this is not what happened.

[Elkchester Road]

Originally Posted by Robert Fischer

They are commodities.

To an extent, I agree. I am not one of those who sees them as pets. But...they deserve far better treatment than they are getting from both their caretakers AND the regulatory bodies in charge. Those in charge have failed the fan base/bettors for ages, and the horses racing. Is there anything else these clowns can screw up??? Oh, that's right. They can mess up their response to the public when they are clearly on the wrong side of everything.

[AndyC]

Originally Posted by Hambletonian

Horse racing has never been good for the horses, but the rise of slots-infused purses has greatly worsened the situation.

It makes far more economic sense to run a horse into the ground than to rest them up. And the nonsense about the average horse being treated well is just nonsense. The vast majority of horses are treated in a way to maximize financial returns, not to ensure a soft post career landing or long term health and welfare of the equine athlete.

There were always be breakdowns, shit happens, but the industry needs to take steps to minimize them. No raceday medication would be a start, stringent pre and post race vet inspections to remove compromised horses from the pool of race horses would also go a long way-even acknowledging that horses "banned" from racing may not have a long and happy life ahead of them.

Changes will be made or the sport has no future. The public has no tolerance for it, and now they are very, very aware of something we all have been for a very long time. Since the economic returns from racing are so low, it is only a matter of time.

No slot-infused purses being paid in CA.

Don't horses today average fewer starts than in the 70s or 80s?

Are there studies showing that pre-race medications increase breakdowns?

Certainly agree that inspections need to be more stringent.

[clicknow]

Originally Posted by Elkchester Road

To an extent, I agree. I am not one of those who sees them as pets. But...they deserve far better treatment than they are getting from both their caretakers AND the regulatory bodies in charge.

Not seeing them as commodities does not mean one considers them *pets*.

But they are certainly different than coffee and sugar.

I wonder if Eddie Sweat considered the horse he groomed to be a *commodity*?

[Elkchester Road]

Originally Posted by clicknow

Not seeing them as commodities does not mean one considers them *pets*.

But they are certainly different than coffee and sugar.

I wonder if Eddie Sweat considered the horse he groomed to be a *commodity*?

Precisely.

[horsefan2019]

Originally Posted by FenceBored

How can it be bad news if DRF, Bloodhorse, and the Paulick Report have no mention of the incidents?

You can google it. It was also on the local news here in Socal....the mainstream media used to never pay attention to these things, now they are attuned to every horse that is euthanized racing locally here.

[Wabash]

Originally Posted by horsefan2019

You can google it. It was also on the local news here in Socal....the mainstream media used to never pay attention to these things, now they are attuned to every horse that is euthanized racing locally here.

Of course it’s on your local news, it’s where the biggest problem is. But nationally, we are not seeing these bad reports like you are. The only time I read about it is on this site. I just scrolled through hundreds of articles on my news app, where all the MSM articles are posted and I didn’t see a single one pertaining to this subject. Seems like a California problem more than a national one.

[bob60566]

Originally Posted by AndyC

No slot-infused purses being paid in CA.

Don't horses today average fewer starts than in the 70s or 80s?

Are there studies showing that pre-race medications increase breakdowns?

Certainly agree that inspections need to be more stringent.

Andy have you seen this one.?

A study examining catastrophic injuries over a 10-year period at four South American racetracks has shown a significant increased risk of fatality for horses that have been administered phenylbutazone, an anti-inflammatory drug that is commonly used in treating racehorses in the United States.

https://www.drf.com/news/study-shows...ty-horses-bute

[horsefan2019]

Originally Posted by Wabash

Of course it’s on your local news, it’s where the biggest problem is. But nationally, we are not seeing these bad reports like you are. The only time I read about it is on this site. I just scrolled through hundreds of articles on my news app, where all the MSM articles are posted and I didn’t see a single one pertaining to this subject. Seems like a California problem more than a national one.

The deaths on the racetrack are happening all over the country, its just the media is laser focused on the Socal market.

[Wabash]

Originally Posted by horsefan2019

The deaths on the racetrack are happening all over the country, its just the media is laser focused on the Socal market.

Exactly, my point is it’s not a national issue in the media. You just agreed with me. So right now it’s only a California problem.

[Tom]

Originally Posted by thaskalos View Post
If the only way the sport can survive is by sending horses to the starting gate before their ailments are allowed to heal properly...then the sport deserves to be killed off, IMO.

Originally Posted by JustRalph

Amen!

They only run 3 times a year now - how the hell much more time do they need?