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Old 06-24-2023, 09:29 PM   #31
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Wow...

Thread derail faster around here these days. Logged in to add some stuff but I'll let you all have at it.
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Old 06-24-2023, 11:02 PM   #32
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Wow...

Thread derail faster around here these days. Logged in to add some stuff but I'll let you all have at it.
Please excuse everyone for not eating the shit sandwich you have prepared.
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Old 06-24-2023, 11:28 PM   #33
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Wow...

Thread derail faster around here these days. Logged in to add some stuff but I'll let you all have at it.
Oh, are you doing us a favor every time you decide to grace us with your presence?

The thread didn't derail. The whole story did...I haven't seen a balloon deflate this fast in a long time
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Old 06-24-2023, 11:30 PM   #34
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But I would beg you to post what you have ely...I'd love to hear an explanation for all the nuttiness they were able to compact into less than a day's time with these events.

Like what's the deal with letting the guy go home?
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Old 06-25-2023, 12:45 AM   #35
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News flash from WSJ just appeared on my phone...Belarus has apparently brokered a deal and Wagner has stopped their march on Moscow...or whatever...
1 billion dollars would turn around any head, perhaps even an army. Just a guess .
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Old 06-25-2023, 09:42 AM   #36
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Oh, are you doing us a favor every time you decide to grace us with your presence?

The thread didn't derail. The whole story did...I haven't seen a balloon deflate this fast in a long time
I like elysiantraveller, but he shouldn’t waste his talents here. He should get a job in the propaganda unit of the CIA, some NeoCon think thank, the FBI etc… that blames everything on Russia while destroying our own country and destabilizing the world.
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Old 06-25-2023, 10:06 AM   #37
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I like elysiantraveller, but he shouldn’t waste his talents here. He should get a job in the propaganda unit of the CIA, some NeoCon think thank, the FBI etc… that blames everything on Russia while destroying our own country and destabilizing the world.
Can one of those who consider themselves more grounded in reality than I explain to me how you can share the sentiments here expressed by CH, with whom I am not disagreeing as far as it goes, and so vehemently oppose the idea that maybe things just go further than you might imagine, that they have been going on longer and encompass more areas. It’s just a matter of degree in a way, after all.
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Old 06-25-2023, 10:59 AM   #38
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I’ve just done a survey of today’s headlines about this. “Putin Weak.” Putin Losing Grip.” “Putin On Way Out.”
The set up is for him to escalate or be said to escalate “the war.” Maybe with the added oomph that he’ll blame or be said to blame The West for instigating “the coup.”

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Old 06-25-2023, 12:57 PM   #39
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I guess Putin isn't the big, bad, homicidal dictator we've been led to believe.

Imagine letting the guy who just tried to stage a coup against you, leave the country not only alive, but with any criminal charges dropped...

https://finance.yahoo.com/news/1-rus...202544976.html

Huh?
You don’t honestly expect it to end this way, do you?

Prigozhin is toast.
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Old 06-25-2023, 01:07 PM   #40
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I could relate to a bunch of idiots calling the shots with no skin in the game getting some pushback from those on the front lines.

The USA will be in the same situation soon.
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Old 06-25-2023, 03:42 PM   #41
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You don’t honestly expect it to end this way, do you?

Prigozhin is toast.
I only claim to have some knowledge of the American politic, here you go again as expert in commie politics. Could it be your kindred spirits with commies or just full of shit?
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Old 06-25-2023, 04:17 PM   #42
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It’s going to take a bullet from up close range to make Putin disappear
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Old 06-25-2023, 04:53 PM   #43
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It's too bad all those claims of a Ukrainian victory and Russian defections and collapse from so long ago never came to fruition...wouldn't need a bullet from close range if only those prognostications were accurate..oh well...

One thing those false predictions certainly did lead to was MORE USA MONEY!!! lol
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Old 06-25-2023, 07:47 PM   #44
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Prigozhin is toast.
I'd make the same bet, but it may take awhile.

Putin IS just like a mafia gangster. He will take out his opponents.

He's just not a threat to the west unless we provoke him into using nukes and he never would have entered Ukraine other than extremist Ukrainians purging ethnic Russians and Russian speaking people in the east that wanted to be free of Ukraine and NATO wanting to put missiles, biolabs etc.. into Ukraine and threaten the defense of Russia.
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Hmm. Interesting.....
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