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03-23-2009, 09:46 AM
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Location: eastern pennsylvania
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Thanks for the list The system I was referring to was Profit Pattern Longshots. I remember Place Your Bets totally stunk but I did get a
few nice prices from Horses On the Edge. The problem was after you
looked at all the horses picked many times you had over half the field as
contenders. Thanks again but by doing it from memory I was only half
right one third of the time. Almost like POWER ZAP
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03-23-2009, 02:29 PM
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Journeyman
Join Date: Nov 2008
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That was the problem. The grid would come up for a race and it would show what horses had what systems going for them. Almost every horse in every race had some system going for it. People could rationalize that they only had to figure out which system worked. Backfit by track and class type. Somebody obsessed enough could go on for years thinking they could find something that works.
They could do the same for Focus from ADPA. Same for Steve Wolson's Powerline. Same for Len C's TIPS program. Same for HTR, HSH, JCapper, Netcapper, or any program with multiple ratings. The winner is found somewhere.
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03-23-2009, 05:40 PM
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Registered User
Join Date: Oct 2004
Location: Florida
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thanks for the chuckle. I remember years ago on the old Prodigy horse board there was a guy called B.Zettler , he used to brag about how "All-in-one" had the winner in that race, paid double figures too.
I finally had to tell him. "Now i know how it works Bill, All-in-One picks all the horses and one of them wins."
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03-31-2009, 11:17 PM
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Join Date: Mar 2006
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I was refering to Dan Greer's program. American Turf monthly shows some of the horses won from the method each month.
Last edited by jwel14; 03-31-2009 at 11:22 PM.
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04-09-2009, 09:25 PM
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Senior Member
Join Date: Mar 2001
Location: Las Vegas
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Yes, they show a nice list of winners but omit the losers and fail to give an ROI. Guess why?
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04-09-2009, 09:58 PM
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goforgin
Join Date: Mar 2008
Location: Carol Stream, IL
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Dan Geer's Pro Rated Longshots
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Originally Posted by jwel14
I was refering to Dan Greer's program. American Turf monthly shows some of the horses won from the method each month.
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I have the program also and have used it in the past. The problem was there were too many playable races. Even with Al Smallman's updated rules, still too many plays and long run outs. Since your post sparked some interest, I decided to check recent PRL winners and see if there is any pattern to limit the number of plays. I checked only Clm's and MdClm's. No Alw, OptClm's, Stakes, etc. Here's what I found from a very small sample.
- Early speed (ES) in the last race. 1st, 2nd or 3rd; and/or within 1 or 2 lengths of the leader at the first 2 calls.
- ES last race plus a drop in class today (saw several of these). ES last race plus 2nd time Lasix today.
- Up in class last race and now dropped in class for this race lower than the 2nd race back.
By limiting plays to Clm's and MdClm's, plus adding the above rules, the number of plays is lowered, but still several hits. Again, a very small sample and a database test may return a negative ROI. I did not check for place or show. Overall, just a thought since I saw your post. If you're checking or finding any patterns and/or restrictions, would be interested to hear back.
Good luck.
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04-12-2009, 12:03 PM
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For some reason I stopped getting the catalog, & I even bought a few things so it wasn't a case of
" no buy, no send ."
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04-12-2009, 06:41 PM
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Registered User
Join Date: Jul 2003
Location: eastern pennsylvania
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Just look at an old catalog or better yet 2 or 3 older catalogs because there
aren't many new items in the "new" one.
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09-09-2009, 11:12 PM
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Registered User
Join Date: Aug 2006
Posts: 100
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New RPM Catalog 2010/2009
I Just got off the phone with Dave at RPM 15 minutes ago.
He said a new Catalog for 2010/2009 will be in the mail in 30 days.
Sincerely Triopstor.
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09-10-2009, 12:37 AM
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Veteran
Join Date: Dec 2004
Posts: 1,125
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Triopstor
I Just got off the phone with Dave at RPM 15 minutes ago.
He said a new Catalog for 2010/2009 will be in the mail in 30 days.
Sincerely Triopstor.
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Thanks for taking the time to make an account here and tell us that in your very first post. We appreciate it.
Sincerely, Santa Claus.
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09-10-2009, 02:39 AM
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Registered User
Join Date: Aug 2006
Posts: 100
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You are welcome Tom!
One of the great purposes of life and this can change a person's point of view is
to seek & provide to EMPOWER people. EMPOWER means for one to be able to self motivate and self power from within. As the Chinese proverb goes:
"Give a man a fish he will eat for a day, But teach a man to fish..."
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09-10-2009, 06:27 AM
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Veteran
Join Date: Feb 2005
Location: nj
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Triopstor
You are welcome Tom!
One of the great purposes of life and this can change a person's point of view is
to seek & provide to EMPOWER people. EMPOWER means for one to be able to self motivate and self power from within. As the Chinese proverb goes:
"Give a man a fish he will eat for a day, But teach a man to fish..."
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I thought it went like this:
Give a man a fish he will eat for a day,teach a man to fish and he will sit in the boat and drink beer all day!
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09-10-2009, 09:53 AM
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Racing Form Detective
Join Date: Jul 2007
Location: Lincoln, Ne but my heart is at Santa Anita
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Quote:
Originally Posted by llegend39
I thought it went like this:
Give a man a fish he will eat for a day,teach a man to fish and he will sit in the boat and drink beer all day!
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09-10-2009, 11:59 AM
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Once/Always
Join Date: Mar 2009
Location: Kansas City Missouri
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Did you get to talk to Clint?
Quote:
Originally Posted by Triopstor
I Just got off the phone with Dave at RPM 15 minutes ago.
He said a new Catalog for 2010/2009 will be in the mail in 30 days.
Sincerely Triopstor.
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While you were on the phone, did you get to talk to Clint?
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09-10-2009, 12:14 PM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Warren Henry
While you were on the phone, did you get to talk to Clint?
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Dave probably had him conferenced in...
Last edited by ryesteve; 09-10-2009 at 12:16 PM.
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