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04-30-2012, 11:20 AM
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State Report Says Racing Association Knowingly Withheld Millions
State Report Says Racing Association Knowingly Withheld Millions
By DANNY HAKIM
The operator of the Saratoga, Aqueduct and Belmont racetracks knowingly withheld nearly $8.5 million that was due to bettors over a 15-month period, according to a new state report, and the Cuomo administration has asked the state inspector general to determine if executives broke civil or criminal laws…..Read the rest here http://www.nytimes.com/2012/04/30/ny...gewanted=print
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04-30-2012, 11:25 AM
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gnostic truth
This is Cuomo jumping in on behalf of his oriental masters in Malaysia & New York. If the local oligarchy can just besmirch NYRA enough -they are hitting them hard today in the Times- and show how cruel horse racing is racing can be cut out of the casino parasite game. It is a game of take the moral ground and then take the profits. It will be played over and over until racing is gone and casino profits can expand.
With racing exterminated in NY the casino can be expanded. Racing is a parasite sucking good casino profit into the pockets of unconnected horse owners. Why should these owners get casino profits? Why do they deserve charity?
When racing is destroyed the profits can be concentrated between the oriental masters in NY and and abroad. If NY is so concerned about life why don't they extend the same concern that they are extending to the 30 horses that died this winter to the thousands of babies that are killed in the womb every month in NY?
This a a classic example of the gnostic duality we live with in the modern world. The exoteric truth told to the world is that Cuomo cares about horses and cares about life. The real or esoteric truth is that Cuomo does not give a crap about life (they kill thousands of babies a day in this country) and this whole campaign is an attempt to expand their casino, enslave the poor to electronic gambling vices and expand their hold on casino profit.
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Last edited by samyn on the green; 04-30-2012 at 11:27 AM.
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04-30-2012, 11:55 AM
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Moved, not handicapping.
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04-30-2012, 12:22 PM
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Isn't this old news?
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Some day in the not too distant future, horse players will betting on computer generated races over the net. Race tracks will become casinos and shopping centers. And some crooner will be belting out "there used to be a race track here".
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04-30-2012, 12:28 PM
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How does abortion get drug into a horse racing discussion?
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Some day in the not too distant future, horse players will betting on computer generated races over the net. Race tracks will become casinos and shopping centers. And some crooner will be belting out "there used to be a race track here".
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04-30-2012, 12:50 PM
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Originally Posted by Robert Goren
Isn't this old news?
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I didn't know this before: In a reply [to Steve Crist], Mr. Hayward said the association had meant to address the issue but “political forces intervened.” After facing steep losses and being “smacked around by Cuomo,” they decided to wait to address the issue, he wrote.
Mr. Crist, a former New York Times reporter and a former racing association executive, agreed to keep the discussion confidential. Months later, in a column, he said the association made “an honest mistake.”
-- http://www.nytimes.com/2012/04/30/ny...-millions.html
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04-30-2012, 01:01 PM
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Probe of NYRA execs may be launched
I was thinking the same thing, Robert. I guess the answer is "because it can!"
Surprised that Obama wasn't mentioned; it's all his fault, right?
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04-30-2012, 02:02 PM
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Anytime corruption is exposed, no matter what the motive, it's a good thing. Wonder where that money when?
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04-30-2012, 02:11 PM
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If evidence exists -- as these emails seem to indicate -- proving that the NYRA leaders willingly refused to lower the takeouts, in spite of state law demanding that they do so...then this shines a different light on this entire takeout fiasco.
And this light allows us to get a better look at Mr. Hayward and Mr. Crist...who agreed to keep this matter "confidential"...and then were quick to report that the "oversight" was purely accidental, when it was later discovered by the state auditors.
And I had always thought that Steven Crist was a "real" horse racing journalist...
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04-30-2012, 02:31 PM
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It would be foolish to think that a racing publication or writer that received advertising $$$ from any racing corporation would choose to expose them if they were aware of any corruption. That would be professional suicide.
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04-30-2012, 02:36 PM
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Originally Posted by usedtolovetvg
It would be foolish to think that a racing publication or writer that received advertising $$$ from any racing corporation would choose to expose them if they were aware of any corruption. That would be professional suicide.
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Papers do this ALL THE TIME. It just proves the point that the true "journalists" in racing are few and far between.
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04-30-2012, 02:38 PM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by usedtolovetvg
It would be foolish to think that a racing publication or writer that received advertising $$$ from any racing corporation would choose to expose them if they were aware of any corruption. That would be professional suicide.
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If they are unwilling to expose corruption in an industry like horse racing...then what do we need these "journalists" for?
To tell us cute stories about the trainers and their wives?
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04-30-2012, 02:43 PM
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More details released here
http://blog.timesunion.com/capitol/a...n-overcharges/
Includes the full emails from Crist and Charlie. As well, the ever present Paceadvantage link to this story (the email from "Rutgers")
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04-30-2012, 02:47 PM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by cj
Papers do this ALL THE TIME. It just proves the point that the true "journalists" in racing are few and far between.
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I would say non-existent.
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