Thread for Russian Attack on Ukraine

[davew]

The EU voted to accept Ukraine as a new member. I am not sure if that means Russia is now fighting the EU.

[Elkchester Road]

Originally Posted by PaceAdvantage

That might be something a puppet of Putin might do.

Exactly. But since there is exactly ZERO chance of the Legacy Media ever connecting these dots...Democrats have absolutely no concern about this. They, through their actions...don't even try to hide anything anymore.

[Dave Schwartz]

Originally Posted by davew

The EU voted to accept Ukraine as a new member. I am not sure if that means Russia is now fighting the EU.

Good lead, DaveW!

6 HOURS AGO: Ukraine’s President Zelenskyy is calling for urgent EU membership


5 HOURS AGO: The European Parliament accepted Ukraine’s application to join the European Union

Short. Good reads.

[ReplayRandall]

I can't believe it's WWIII season already....

I still have my COVID decorations up.

[Tom]

Did we miss Madis Gras???

[Tom]

Originally Posted by davew

The EU voted to accept Ukraine as a new member. I am not sure if that means Russia is now fighting the EU.

That convoy of tanks heading to the capital......where is Trudeau????

[CaptainObvious]

Originally Posted by Tom

He's not in the corner, he's in Ukraine.

So you say just let him do what he wants?
He has refused diplomatic methods.

We did that in the 1930s, how'd that work out?

Don’t be naïve. I never said let him do what he wants and I don’t claim to have all the answers.

Obviously, this is a complicated situation but there is no doubt that US foreign policy and NATO expanding into the Russian sphere of influence helped precipitate his move.

How’s US intervention post WWII worked out?

[PaceAdvantage]

Originally Posted by CaptainObvious

Don’t be naïve. I never said let him do what he wants and I don’t claim to have all the answers.

Obviously, this is a complicated situation but there is no doubt that US foreign policy and NATO expanding into the Russian sphere of influence helped precipitate his move.

How’s US intervention post WWII worked out?

You sound like you're spreading propaganda for PUTIN!

SQUAWK SQUAWK....

[PaceAdvantage]

I found this to be some pretty good pre-invasion analysis...

https://niccolo.substack.com/p/fuck-...break-with?s=r

This part in particular:

USA Triumphant
Ukraine is disposable in American eyes. That warmongering bitch Vicki “Fuck the EU” Nuland (she runs Russia policy in the US State Department) must be laughing her fat and disgusting ass off at how stupid the Ukrainians are to willingly sacrifice themselves for her project to surround, neutralize, and dismember Russia. All is going according to plan.

This crisis was not about Ukraine. Ukraine only provided the setting for which this crisis is playing itself out. The point of this crisis, from the US perspective, is to effect a final cut off of Russia from Europe economically, so as to reduce Russian influence and increase US dominance on the continent, while cashing in by way of LNG exports to replace Russian gas deliveries. That’s it. The USA is more than happy in seeing Kiev occupied by Russian forces, because it kills the NordStream 2 pipeline, and opens up new business for American LNG companies, as well as bigger business for US arms exporters.

The ideal situation to them is to see the Russians invade, overextend themselves, and fall into an Afghanistan-type quagmire, in which Ukraine is set ablaze, and Ukrainians, backed by massive arms deliveries from the USA, engage in a partizan/mujahidden guerrilla war with Russian forces to drain Russia and to embarrass it. Who cares how many Ukrainian cities are levelled, how many civilians die? It will all be pinned on Vladimir Putler anyway, at the Hague War Crimes Tribunal that they dream of in their sleep.

The USA already dominates Europe by way of NATO and trade agreements, its scheisskultur permeates much of the continent, whether through popular culture or though academic trends such as wokeness. Why not solidify that control by way of controlling its energy sector as well?

US media has made a fool out of itself, as have American talking heads…..but this is what they are there for. Without any accountability for their words and actions, they have every reason to continue lying to us as they have done now for decades in service to their foreign policy designs. Take a look at this one:

https://twitter.com/tribelaw/status/1495950566895374339

Nordstream 2 represented a nightmare scenario for US policy planners: Russia and Germany engaging in cooperation outside of US monitoring. With Russia turning towards China, the apocalyptic vision of a China-Russia-Germany alliance begins to unfold in Washington, DC. Not allowed!

[davew]

government bureaucrats running the world? why do we even have elections?

[PaceAdvantage]

A little comic relief....

YouTube

[Tom]

Originally Posted by CaptainObvious

Don’t be naïve. I never said let him do what he wants and I don’t claim to have all the answers.

Obviously, this is a complicated situation but there is no doubt that US foreign policy and NATO expanding into the Russian sphere of influence helped precipitate his move.

How’s US intervention post WWII worked out?

Pretty F****** good.
We rebuilt Europe and Japan, and at least stopped Russian aggression, and today, millions of people are living free and prosperous live because of it.

[elysiantraveller]

Have to be careful with all of the propaganda stuff but it looks like Russia's logistical woes are continuing.

This doesn't change the calculus that Kyiv eventually falls and everything east of the Dneiper gets sliced away but it shows the difficulty Russia is going to have the longer they have to prosecute this war.

The Ukrainian state surviving in some capacity grows by the day.

[Tom]

Not acceptable.
WE should immediately secure Ukrainian air space and use our forces to obliterate the convoy of tanks. They are an illegal force on an ally's soil.
The time for action is now. We sre allowing war crimes because our potus is a spineless POS. Any russian soldier in Ukraine is a target.

[mhaney0423]

Originally Posted by Tom

Not acceptable.
WE should immediately secure Ukrainian air space and use our forces to obliterate the convoy of tanks. They are an illegal force on an ally's soil.
The time for action is now. We sre allowing war crimes because our potus is a spineless POS. Any russian soldier in Ukraine is a target.

Absolutely agree with this, the US and NATO at very least should enforce a no fly zone in Ukraine. Tell the Russian leaders and Russian people in no uncertain terms, that we were asked by a sovereign Ukraine to enforce a no fly zone and we have agreed to do it. We have absolutely no intentions of setting one foot on Russian soil, but Ukraine IS NOT Russian soil. Furthermore, we have no intentions to use nuclear weapons preemptively but if attacked with nuclear weapons, we will respond with everything we have.

Call this SOB's bluff, this guy, like most Russians of his age and stature, are only concerned with their legacy and how history will remember him. If Putin wants to be remembered in history as the man who caused Russia to disappear from the face of the earth, then by all means, carry on. In this case, he would be more infamous than even Hitler I dare say.

Bullies like Putin will continue to bully, until someone hits them in the mouth. By doing nothing now, we only postpone the inevitable and sacrifice the brave Ukranian people.

Next up........Moldova followed by Finland