The official Obama collapsing thread

[Clocker]

Originally Posted by dartman51

You know that line made more than a few Democrats cringe.

You mean like this from Politico :

Former White House Senior Adviser David Axelrod said on Sunday it was a mistake for President Barack Obama to say that his policies are on the ballot this fall.

Appearing on NBC’s “Meet the Press,” Axelrod said that if he were still an Obama adviser he would not have included the line in the president’s speech last week in which Obama said: “I’m not on the ballot this fall ... but make no mistake, these policies are on the ballot — every single one of them.”

“It was a mistake,” Axelrod said.

Or this from Joe Trippi

MEGYN KELLY: David Axelrod comes out and says that was a mistake. Was it and how big of one?

JOE TRIPPI, DEMOCRATIC STRATEGIST: I agree with him. Big mistake. I mean -- the president is a drag on Democrats. It's the case. He can't run away from it. Democrats are trying to localize these elections, make it between them and their opponent, not between them and Obama and their opponent. And this just walked in a gift to the Republicans. It really was.

[TJDave]

Originally Posted by dartman51

She is right. Obama is NOT on the ballot, but, in HIS OWN words: "I am not on the ballot this fall. Michelle’s pretty happy about that. But make no mistake: these policies are on the ballot. Every single one of them."

You know that line made more than a few Democrats cringe.

The Clinton camp believes that a mid-term defeat would help Hillary's chances in 2016. I understand the philosophy behind this strategy and believe it a huge gamble. I guess their thinking is based on the unlikelihood of the same party succeeding itself in three consecutive elections... A feat rarely accomplished. But given the republican party's, of late, tendency to shoot itself in the foot, I believe it could work.

[Clocker]

Originally Posted by TJDave

The Clinton camp believes that a mid-term defeat would help Hillary's chances in 2016.

Bill is on the campaign trail, and he is doing his best to distance the candidates he is helping from Obama, and specifically Obama's claim that his policies are on the ballot.

I see no evidence that Hillary is doing anything similar. No matter what they think would help her, she needs to be seen as a team player.

[TJDave]

Originally Posted by Clocker

I see no evidence that Hillary is doing anything similar. No matter what they think would help her, she needs to be seen as a team player.

She knows that. In politics, perception is reality.

[Clocker]

I spoke too soon. Hillary made her first big 2014 campaign speech for the Democratic candidate for governor in PA yesterday, and apparently is ramping up for more over the next month.

She's back.

[JustRalph]

Grimes didn't want to say it, because it would be in an ad that would be running for the next month

[reckless]

Originally Posted by Clocker

I spoke too soon. Hillary made her first big 2014 campaign speech for the Democratic candidate for governor in PA yesterday, and apparently is ramping up for more over the next month.

She's back.

Hillary even implied that she was a native Pennsylvanian, Clocker, if you could believe that.

I gotta give her one piece of credit -- she does have a bigger pair of onions than Obama, that's for sure.

[Clocker]

Originally Posted by reckless

Hillary even implied that she was a native Pennsylvanian, Clocker, if you could believe that.

If y'all ever hear her speakin' in the south, she suddenly develops a drawl.

[dartman51]

Originally Posted by Clocker

If y'all ever hear her speakin' in the south, she suddenly develops a drawl.

Check with Harry Reid, she probably speaks with a negro dialect, when she needs one.

[Tom]

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[Clocker]

Originally Posted by dartman51

Check with Harry Reid, she probably speaks with a negro dialect, when she needs one.

Don't ever' one, cracker?

[tucker6]

Originally Posted by dartman51

Check with Harry Reid, she probably speaks with a negro dialect, when she needs one.

He would say that she's well spoken for a white woman.

[johnhannibalsmith]

Elizabeth Warren: Obama's economic team chose Wall Street over 'families'

"He picked his economic team and when the going got tough, his economic team picked Wall Street. ...They protected Wall Street. Not families who were losing their homes. Not people who lost their jobs. Not young people who were struggling to get an education. And it happened over and over and over."

http://money.cnn.com/2014/10/12/news...l?iid=HP_River







Poor mosite... the old or the new... the old or the new... blind loyalty is rough.

[reckless]

Originally Posted by tucker6

He would say that she's well spoken for a white woman.

And racist Joe Biden would say she smells nice too!

[davew]

in 5-10 years we will know if Obama SUCCEEDED in turning the United States into a 3rd world country