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View Poll Results: What is your most successful handicapping trait/tool?
Patience 40 14.18%
Experience 48 17.02%
Number crunching 18 6.38%
Sheets / Thorograph / TimeformUS / DRF / Equibase, etc. 33 11.70%
Software 45 15.96%
Very specific races/angles 30 10.64%
Jockey/Trainer angles 17 6.03%
Other 51 18.09%
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Old 08-09-2018, 10:22 AM   #1
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What is your most important Handicapping tool/trait?

What is your "go to" handicapping trait/tool that you have or use that results in success?
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Old 08-09-2018, 11:38 AM   #2
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Experience my "go to"

I seen everything that can happen on a race track at least once.

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Experience my "go to"

I seen everything that can happen on a race track at least once.

Allan
You ever seen an amateur jockey race with a professional jockey?

You ever seen a ringer?

Caffeine and adderall are good tools for handicapping.

But seriously, I use different angles for different types of races.

For maidens, I like the "Pop and Stop" angle. Find a horse that has had only one race and ran well early, but then faded badly. Then it had a long layoff before it's second start in today's maiden race. This tells me trainer had the horse ready to go, but something went wrong. The trainer laid the horse off and hopefully fixed whatever the problem was. Now it might be ready to run today.

Lone speed in a turf marathon. For example, Buck's Boy in the BC Turf Classic.

"Turf Decline Line". This is from Cary Fotias' revolutionary book "Blinkers Off". I use the term "revolutionary" in all seriousness.
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I rely on pure luck.
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Good luck!
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Experience my "go to"

I seen everything that can happen on a race track at least once.

Allan

I'm obviously a complete 180 of your opinion.


I haven't seen everything. I have much more to learn. And anything and everything can happen in the very next race. I need to prepare for that.
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I'm obviously a complete 180 of your opinion.


I haven't seen everything. I have much more to learn. And anything and everything can happen in the very next race. I need to prepare for that.
Good point. I will even give you one "meow meow beenz" for that.

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Good point. I will even give you one "meow meow beenz" for that.
Had a good full belly chuckle. Thank you.
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Had a good full belly chuckle. Thank you.
I would have given you 5, but PA only gives them out one at a time.

I wonder if I can go back and hit the button 4 more times?

Or maybe I can go and try to find 4 other of your posts that I agree with? No. That would be 20 meow meow beenz. I will click on 4 others that I don't agree with. LOL
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My most important horse-betting trait is my extremely high pain threshold. I can lose 30 consecutive serious wagers...and lose the 31st with the same equanimity. Such a trait comes in handy at Saratoga and Presque Isles.
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My most important horse-betting trait is my extremely high pain threshold. I can lose 30 consecutive serious wagers...and lose the 31st with the same equanimity. Such a trait comes in handy at Saratoga and Presque Isles.
Alright, now I can see that you're just pandering for meow meow beenz, but I'm going to go ahead and give you one because your post might help some newbies.
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My most important horse-betting trait is my extremely high pain threshold. I can lose 30 consecutive serious wagers...and lose the 31st with the same equanimity. Such a trait comes in handy at Saratoga and Presque Isles.
Just speaking for myself, Presque Isle's a piece of cake compared to Saratoga!
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Alright, now I can see that you're just pandering for meow meow beenz, but I'm going to go ahead and give you one because your post might help some newbies.
The newbies usually don't stick around long enough to lose 30 consecutive serious wagers. My post was intended for the "veteran" players.
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You ever seen an amateur jockey race with a professional jockey?

You ever seen a ringer?
1. Nope you are correct I have never seen a pro riding in an amateur race. But I have seen many times an amateur riding in a pro race.

2. Yeah I am old, I can remember riding the bus to the big M in 1977 and two old railbirds talking about a bomber that came in the last race at Belmont, Lebon at 50-1.

I take a look at the form. Lebon? should have been 5000-1. needless to say had no idea it was actually Cinzano.

https://www.nytimes.com/1977/11/22/a...-saratoga.html

what a great time to be a horseplayer. Belmont in the day. Big M at night.

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1. Nope you are correct I have never seen a pro riding in an amateur race. But I have seen many times an amateur riding in a pro race.
It happened at Aqueduct in the mid 1990's. I had never seen an amateur jockey race in NY. I was with a friend at the time who was a racing journalist from England. He said amateur rider races were common in England -- especially jump races. We were surprised when we saw their was an amateur rider race. He said the key to handicapping the race was to look for the jockey how had the best looking form when sitting on the horse in the post parade. Sure enough, there was a jockey sitting on a horse that had perfect posture. He was sitting the same way Jerry Bailey sat -- upright and full of confidence. The jockey won at 3-1, but when the race ended the announcer said to hold all tickets because there was an inquiry. The race was declared a non-betting race because the winning jockey was a pro from Panama. I knew it was too good to be true. But at least I learned a good tip for the future.

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2. Yeah I am old, I can remember riding the bus to the big M in 1977 and two old railbirds talking about a bomber that came in the last race at Belmont, Lebon at 50-1.

I take a look at the form. Lebon? should have been 5000-1. needless to say had no idea it was actually Cinzano.

https://www.nytimes.com/1977/11/22/a...-saratoga.html

what a great time to be a horseplayer. Belmont in the day. Big M at night.

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Those were the days! Even back in the 1990s Big M was racing at night if I am not mistaken.

Of course, nowadays you can bet Europe at 6:00am, Belmont in the afternoon, Santa Anita late afternoon into early evening, Mountaineer at night, and then Hong Kong and Australia until 6:00am.
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