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09-15-2018, 03:42 PM
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Originally Posted by davew
He knows that Podesta and the Podesta group were unregistered agents of foreign countries trying to influence US policy.
Bye Bye dim talking points.
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Podesta group was not unregistered, like Manafort, nor did they work for the Manchurian predident.
Bye bye your talking points.
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09-15-2018, 04:01 PM
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#1517
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Originally Posted by hcap
Podesta group was not unregistered, like Manafort, nor did they work for the Manchurian predident.
Bye bye your talking points.
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time will tell just how much of a genius you are - it is obvious now that you think you are the smartest man in the room (except when 0bama is around)
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09-15-2018, 04:08 PM
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Originally Posted by davew
time will tell just how much of a genius you are - it is obvious now that you think you are the smartest man in the room (except when 0bama is around)
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Why can't you back up your babble? When you say all lobbyists are indeed a problem, I agree. But when you use this general statement to somehow back up Manafort's "innocence" and Chumpy walking Scott free, I am much smarter than you.
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09-15-2018, 04:20 PM
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Originally Posted by VigorsTheGrey
Was wondering if anyone could expand on the remarks above which are from Politico Magazine but essentially lifted from the Manafort case court documents...
Who are the “Obama Jews” here? And in what way could the “Jewish community take this out on Obama on Election Day...
I ask these questions because there is a tendency to ‘poo poo’ talk here about the Jewish role in American politics as either conspiracy theory (Hcap) or anti-Semitism (PA)...the Manafort documents disclose this influence as a veiled threat even...what is the real life basis for Manafort’s thinking here...do the “Jews” here really have that much power in our system to effect such things...
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Happenned before Manafort hooked up with Trump.
Paul Manafort Privately Coordinated with Unnamed Israeli Official to Discredit a Ukrainian Politician
https://www.alternet.org/news-amp-po...edit-ukrainian
But NBC News is reporting on the details of the charging document against Manafort, including his work for Ukrainian politician Viktor Yanukovych—and according to NBC News, Manafort “privately coordinated with an unnamed senior Israeli official” in order to discredit, in 2010, Yanukovych’s political opponent, Yulia Tymoshenko (who served as Ukraine’s prime minister from 2007-2010).
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09-15-2018, 04:35 PM
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Just for you Tom.
Wake up already.
All the Ways Paul Manafort’s Guilty Plea Will Hurt Donald Trump
https://slate.com/news-and-politics/...ald-trump.html
First, without knowing all of what has been uncovered by Mueller’s investigators, here are some areas where Manafort’s testimony could further a case against Trump:
• Manafort pleaded guilty to orchestrating his conspiracy on behalf of the Party of Regions, with support from former deputy Rick Gates and Kiev-based consultant Konstantin Kilimnik. The latter is alleged in other Mueller filings to have had ongoing “ties to Russian intelligence” in 2016, when Manafort was on the Trump campaign. In another filing, Gates—who is also cooperating with Mueller—was said to have described Kilimnik as a “former Russian Intelligence Officer with the GRU.” The GRU was the organization at the center of the attacks on the 2016 election. As part of his cooperation deal, Manafort will have to divulge the full extent of his relationship with Kilimnik. If Kilimnik knew anything about the hacking efforts and spoke with Manafort about it, Manafort would now be expected to tell Mueller and the grand jury.
• The fact that Kilimnik was allegedly involved in—and thus knew of—Manafort’s crimes would mean that Russia would have had obvious leverage over Trump’s campaign chairman. Manafort will have to explain this.
• There’s another point of leverage Manafort will have to plausibly and fully explain: Emails made public last year that indicate he offered Russian oligarch Oleg Deripaska “private briefings” on the Trump 2016 campaign, with Kilimnik as his intermediary. Manafort is also alleged in court filings to owe Deripaska many millions of dollars. In communications with Kilimnik, Manafort pointed to his work in the Trump campaign and asked, “How do we use to get whole?”
• During the 2016 national convention, Trump campaign officials reportedly worked to undercut the Republican Party platform’s position supporting Ukraine in its conflict with Russia. Manafort will have to explain what exact role he had in that episode and what Trump and other campaign officials knew of actions he may have taken regarding the platform.
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09-15-2018, 05:01 PM
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Originally Posted by hcap
Looks like I and other Trump bashers are evening out the odds
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How does hcap have a higher rep power score than me PA?
I don't get it.
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09-15-2018, 05:10 PM
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Just for you Tom.
Wake up already.
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Been awake.
Hard to stay awake when all you post is opinion and fantasy.
You are very boring, hcap.
Very boring.
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09-16-2018, 10:51 AM
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Bob Woodward: No Evidence Of Trump-Russia Collusion, I Searched For Two Years
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09-16-2018, 11:21 AM
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09-16-2018, 11:26 AM
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Originally Posted by Tom
Been awake.
Hard to stay awake when all you post is opinion and fantasy.
You are very boring, hcap.
Very boring.
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I document what I post.
Why don't don't you do the same on your never-ending very absurd foot in mouth opinions
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09-16-2018, 11:28 AM
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You say document, I say crocument.
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09-16-2018, 11:36 AM
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Originally Posted by Tom
You say document, I say crocument.
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All your posts are "crocs". Is that what is stopping you?
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09-16-2018, 11:42 AM
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Grow up little man. YOU constantly IGNORE anyone who documents something you don't like. Like everyone saying Woodward is lying.
Quit running around here like you are some mental genius who going to save the country. You are not and you will not.
You are a pissed off nobody with an ax to grind and no one can punch you in the nose on the internet.
Fact of life, NFC.
Deal with it.
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09-16-2018, 12:10 PM
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#1529
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Originally Posted by Tom
Grow up little man. YOU constantly IGNORE anyone who documents something you don't like. Like everyone saying Woodward is lying.
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Like Wolfe' s Fire and Fury, Amarosa's Unhinged, the op ed in the NY Times and Ex secretary of state Rex Tillerson, "Trump is a moron"?
Hint: Not everyone
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09-16-2018, 12:28 PM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by hcap
Happenned before Manafort hooked up with Trump.
Paul Manafort Privately Coordinated with Unnamed Israeli Official to Discredit a Ukrainian Politician
https://www.alternet.org/news-amp-po...edit-ukrainian
But NBC News is reporting on the details of the charging document against Manafort, including his work for Ukrainian politician Viktor Yanukovych—and according to NBC News, Manafort “privately coordinated with an unnamed senior Israeli official” in order to discredit, in 2010, Yanukovych’s political opponent, Yulia Tymoshenko (who served as Ukraine’s prime minister from 2007-2010).
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Why don’t they name this Israeli senior official...? They name everyone else..who are they trying to protect..?
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