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07-09-2018, 04:17 PM
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what an easy game.
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07-11-2018, 12:35 AM
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Oh what grounds to you base such incredible leaps of imagination?
I feel sorry for people who have allowed the media and certain other institutions to warp their thinking in certain areas.
You seem like a reasonable and prudent person otherwise, as I've been interacting with you for going on 30 years now (since the old Prodigy horse board days).
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I feel sorry for people who perpetually defend the indefensible.
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07-11-2018, 01:27 AM
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I feel sorry for people who perpetually defend the indefensible.
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Yes I know. It's just soooooooooooooooooooooooo indefensible.
I suggest one of you brave warriors do something about it already. Personally. Be a hero.
I mean, the entire world and future is at stake, no?
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07-11-2018, 12:58 PM
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what an easy game.
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Trump does not favor the right or the left. He seems to divide the two to give lift to his own agenda.
Its one of the basic laws of aerodynamics.its also a tactic for power, divide and conquer.
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07-11-2018, 02:41 PM
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Originally Posted by formula_2002
Trump does not favor the right or the left. He seems to divide the two to give lift to his own agenda.
Its one of the basic laws of aerodynamics.its also a tactic for power, divide and conquer.
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I have never seen Trump as power hungry. Merely a guy who sees this country as a business, one that needs saving, and he has the mental toughness and the balls to actually do it.
I don't think he cares who he gets help from.
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07-11-2018, 02:43 PM
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Originally Posted by wisconsin
I have never seen Trump as power hungry. Merely a guy who sees this country as a business, one that needs saving, and he has the mental toughness and the balls to actually do it.
I don't think he cares who he gets help from.
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I see many of his detractors blithering idiots.
Every day, they seek a new low level of brain activity!
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07-11-2018, 02:46 PM
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President Trump is a pragmatist. He wants to do what is logical, regardless of whether it falls into left or right. That's one of the reasons I like him so much.
Obviously, he ran as a Republican and has obligations to make the Republican party happy. But I do not believe he's really one of them.
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07-11-2018, 02:53 PM
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We never wanted him to be.
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07-11-2018, 04:08 PM
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This action with NATO is something that I expected (or at least hoped for) from Trump. Rock on.
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07-11-2018, 06:00 PM
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what an easy game.
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Originally Posted by wisconsin
I have never seen Trump as power hungry. Merely a guy who sees this country as a business, one that needs saving, and he has the mental toughness and the balls to actually do it.
I don't think he cares who he gets help from.
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That's the problem, the President of the United States of American, is the leader of the COUNTRY, not the president of a business seeking to maximize returns for investors.
"I have never seen Trump as power hungry".. you're out of focus.
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07-11-2018, 06:58 PM
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This action with NATO is something that I expected (or at least hoped for) from Trump. Rock on.
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So for almost 70 years NATO has overseen peace in Europe. No world wars in 70 years. Most sane people would consider this result and say long live NATO.
Not Republicans/conservatives in today's U.S.A. These people want the something for nothing and they want it now. So they cry like babies about the US paying too much for everything. We can't raise taxes to pay for our crumbling infrastructure. We can't pay taxes for food stamps, Medicaid, healthcare, Social Security, or world peace. Because nothing is more important than Republicans/conservatives paying less taxes!
How does one fool oneself into believing being selfish is a virtue?
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07-11-2018, 07:08 PM
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Originally Posted by NJ Stinks
So for almost 70 years NATO has overseen peace in Europe. No world wars in 70 years. Most sane people would consider this result and say long live NATO.
Not Republicans/conservatives in today's U.S.A. These people want the something for nothing and they want it now. So they cry like babies about the US paying too much for everything. We can't raise taxes to pay for our crumbling infrastructure. We can't pay taxes for food stamps, Medicaid, healthcare, Social Security, or world peace. Because nothing is more important than Republicans/conservatives paying less taxes!
How does one fool oneself into believing being selfish is a virtue?
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Hold on their stinky...…
Isnt it the liberals who are all about social justice? The welfare and state or government aid programs??? So please don't say its the right that wants something for nothing.....
Next, we never said, nor has Trump, that we don't want to pay. What we said is we want EVERYONE to pay their fair share. Isn't that another of the lefts mantra's? Pay your fair share??? You should be proud of Trump!!
But here is why you aren't.....its not about other countries paying their fair share is it? Its about us becoming like those other countries (socialism). America can't go towards socialism if its prosperous isn't that right Stinks??
But here's the number 1 problem with the ultimate goal of the left....
If America isn't the big boy on the block to pay for everyone's woes, then who is??? You see, you have the benefit of living in the most prosperous country in the world that can seemingly save everyone's asses. So all you libs that hope for socialism and anything of the sort, you have no real clue because you haven't experienced it from the other side.
So for all you libs that wish to head in that social engineering "project"...go spend a year living that shit first! And you cant take your US wealth with ya. Go live at the poverty level in the Ukraine, Russia, etc etc and then come back and provide us your report. Otherwise, keep wishing in one hand and shitting in the other and let us know which one fills up faster. As it isn't going to happen here!!!
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07-11-2018, 07:32 PM
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Newt, it's undeniable. The right expects the best there is of everything and they don't want to pay squat for it.
Not sure where you were going with me living abroad as it relates to NATO. But it was a good rant!
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07-11-2018, 07:34 PM
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Newt, it's undeniable. The right expects the best there is of everything and they don't want to pay squat for it.
Not sure where you were going with me living abroad as it relates to NATO. But it was a good rant!
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So you equate the US wanting other nations to pay their part equally, to the US and the right not wanting to pay squat??? Ok we all get it!!
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07-11-2018, 07:59 PM
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Originally Posted by NJ Stinks
So for almost 70 years NATO has overseen peace in Europe. No world wars in 70 years. Most sane people would consider this result and say long live NATO.
Not Republicans/conservatives in today's U.S.A. These people want the something for nothing and they want it now. So they cry like babies about the US paying too much for everything. We can't raise taxes to pay for our crumbling infrastructure. We can't pay taxes for food stamps, Medicaid, healthcare, Social Security, or world peace. Because nothing is more important than Republicans/conservatives paying less taxes!
How does one fool oneself into believing being selfish is a virtue?
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It is surprising to me that SO many liberals want more for food stamps, Medicaid, healthcare, Social Security and world peace, yet are ALREADY NET recipients from the generosity of the American taxpayers.
But I am sure you are already paying your fair share.
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