Finally! Washington Post buries Baffert: The dark side of Bob Baffert’s reign

[Andy Asaro]

I knew this was coming and it hits on a lot of stuff that others have ignored in all this namely the sudden deaths. Pay attention to the people involved with the likely coverup. Right on

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https://www.msn.com/en-us/sports/mor...ign/ar-AALbvfx

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Last edited by Andy Asaro; 06-18-2021 at 01:02 PM.

[Elkchester Road]

Originally Posted by Andy Asaro

I knew this was coming and it hits on a lot of stuff that others have ignored in all this namely the sudden deaths. Pay attention to the people involved with the likely coverup. Right on

https://twitter.com/racetrackandy/st...30886554546179


https://www.msn.com/en-us/sports/mor...ign/ar-AALbvfx

Thanks for the post, Andy. Good stuff. If the truth hurts...so be it.

Contrary to what some people think...there was Thoroughbred Racing before Bob Baffert.

[Andy Asaro]

Originally Posted by Elkchester Road

Thanks for the post, Andy. Good stuff. If the truth hurts...so be it.

Contrary to what some people think...there was Thoroughbred Racing before Bob Baffert.

Glad it came out. Hopefully there is a follow up article.

[The_Turf_Monster]

I didn’t read anything that was new in that article

When is the jockey club going to step in and not register foals to sires and broodmares that had positives? When is Kentucky going to step in and cut California and Arkansas off from Derby points? When will owners be banned?

[thaskalos]

This isn't just an indictment against Baffert...it's an indictment against the CHRB and the TOC, as well. Let's see how much "clout" Baffert retains once his 'powerful alliances' within the game get placed under the microscope.

[Andy Asaro]

Originally Posted by thaskalos

This isn't just and indictment against Baffert...it's an indictment against the CHRB and the TOC, as well. Let's see how much "clout" Baffert retains once his 'powerful alliances' within the game get placed under the microscope.

Right, major corruption IMO.

[dilanesp]

Originally Posted by The_Turf_Monster

I didn’t read anything that was new in that article

When is the jockey club going to step in and not register foals to sires and broodmares that had positives? When is Kentucky going to step in and cut California and Arkansas off from Derby points? When will owners be banned?

One legal thing I noticed is that Dr. Arthur says it was the CHRB's idea to proceed secretly in the Justify case. (Bear in mind, it is a felony in California for a regulatory board to hold secret sessions.)

[The_Turf_Monster]

Originally Posted by dilanesp

One legal thing I noticed is that Dr. Arthur says it was the CHRB's idea to proceed secretly in the Justify case. (Bear in mind, it is a felony in California for a regulatory board to hold secret sessions.)

Ignorance of the law is no excuse, etc. but it’s more likely that failure to be open and proceed secretly will be used as a rationale to end the sport in the state than it is to bring about change. People need to stop pointing to that as some kind of ‘gotcha’ unless they want the sport to end locally

[thaskalos]

Originally Posted by The_Turf_Monster

Ignorance of the law is no excuse, etc. but it’s more likely that failure to be open and proceed secretly will be used as a rationale to end the sport in the state than it is to bring about change. People need to stop pointing to that as some kind of ‘gotcha’ unless they want the sport to end locally

If the racing regulatory boards have decided to operate "secretly" when dealing with important issues, then the game fully deserves to come to the end of its existence...not only locally, but also nationwide. Only the SUCKERS could ever miss a crooked gambling game.

[dilanesp]

Originally Posted by The_Turf_Monster

Ignorance of the law is no excuse, etc. but it’s more likely that failure to be open and proceed secretly will be used as a rationale to end the sport in the state than it is to bring about change. People need to stop pointing to that as some kind of ‘gotcha’ unless they want the sport to end locally

That's a terrible take. If we can't have a racing board that follows the law and is accountable to the public, the danger of corruption is too high. If the sport ever is put out of business by the public, it will only have itself to blame.

[pandy]

Originally Posted by thaskalos

This isn't just an indictment against Baffert...it's an indictment against the CHRB and the TOC, as well. Let's see how much "clout" Baffert retains once his 'powerful alliances' within the game get placed under the microscope.

No question about it. The CHRB has been complicit.

[pandy]

Besides the high percentage of dead horses from the Baffert barn over the years, how many horses has he had to shut down due to injury? It seems like a ton. He's had many young horses that were in training and then never made it to the races, or raced a few times and the next thing you know, they're finished.

[the little guy]

Originally Posted by pandy

Besides the high percentage of dead horses from the Baffert barn over the years, how many horses has he had to shut down due to injury? It seems like a ton. He's had many young horses that were in training and then never made it to the races, or raced a few times and the next thing you know, they're finished.

Wait, so you are criticizing him for stopping on an injured horse? Is that was this has come to?

I'm not defending Bob ( I'm not sure who would ) but can we at least discuss this with some level of rationality?

[Andy Asaro]

Originally Posted by the little guy

Wait, so you are criticizing him for stopping on an injured horse? Is that was this has come to?

I'm not defending Bob ( I'm not sure who would ) but can we at least discuss this with some level of rationality?

Think it's more of Baffert running horses beyond their capabilities, maybe with EPO or some other performance enhancer and their bodies not being able to take it. In other words working them hard and running them when they should have been stopped on. The excerpt below is the first time I've heard anyone say this and it makes a lot of sense. Equine Medical Director Rick Arthur not my favorite person but this was a rare moment of honesty IMO


https://www.bloodhorse.com/horse-rac...sting-proposal

Excerpt:

Arthur continued to point out the need for out-of-competition testing because "races are won in training," where he said doping is most effective.

[pandy]

Originally Posted by the little guy

Wait, so you are criticizing him for stopping on an injured horse? Is that was this has come to?

I'm not defending Bob ( I'm not sure who would ) but can we at least discuss this with some level of rationality?

Good point.