@Dodgers can't say they were unaware of group's hostility toward Catholics/Christians

[Andy Asaro]

Looks like the Dodgers were pressured by politicians to support the hate group

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[proximity]

"honest conversations within the los angeles dodgers organization..."

[classhandicapper]

This has nothing to do with tolerance and diversity. These are people that openly hate and attack Christianity (one of the few accepted forms of hatred in America). Yet the Dodgers and many other large corporations are bowing down to them.

If you can't see what's going by now, you never will.

The irony is that this period is making me more religious.

I can't believe a society can be so fucked up that the destruction marriage, family, monogamy, biological science, and 6000 years of evidence is celebrated. Medical procedures and sexualization of immature children are being normalized (and we know what comes next). It's pure insanity.

It's hard to believe this can be happening without some influence from a demonic entity.

And if that demonic entity exists, so must God. But so far Satan is winning.

[thaskalos]

Originally Posted by classhandicapper

This has nothing to do with tolerance and diversity. These are people that openly hate and attack Christianity (one of the few accepted forms of hatred in America). Yet the Dodgers and many other large corporations are bowing down to them.

If you can't see what's going by now, you never will.

The irony is that this period is making me more religious.

I can't believe a society can be so fucked up that the destruction marriage, family, monogamy, biological science, and 6000 years of evidence is celebrated. Medical procedures and sexualization of immature children are being normalized (and we know what comes next). It's pure insanity.

It's hard to believe this can be happening without some influence from a demonic entity.

And if that demonic entity exists, so must God. But so far Satan is winning.

What you are conveniently ignoring, of course, is that Satan was created by God, and is only allowed to operate because God wishes it so. Consequently…God can’t be held blameless for this “demonic influence” that you describe.

[boxcar]

Originally Posted by thaskalos

What you are conveniently ignoring, of course, is that Satan was created by God, and is only allowed to operate because God permits it to be so. Consequently…God can’t be blamed for this “demonic influence” that you describe.

FTFY.

And, no, God cannot be blamed for permitting moral free agents to make choices that are consistent with their sin nature. Since salvation finds its sole ground in God's grace, He is not morally obligated to save anyone from hell or themselves; otherwise grace would not be grace.

[thaskalos]

Originally Posted by boxcar

FTFY.

And, no, God cannot be blamed for permitting moral free agents to make choices that are consistent with their sin nature. Since salvation finds its sole ground in God's grace, He is not morally obligated to save anyone from hell or themselves; otherwise grace would not be grace.

You are playing with words. "Allows/permits".

When I see a criminal act that I can easily put an end to without having any harm come to myself, and I turn my back to it and "permit" it to happen...then I am "allowing" this crime to go on. Especially when I am responsible for the existence of the "criminal". And no sane person can say that I remain "blameless" in the matter.

[classhandicapper]

Originally Posted by thaskalos

What you are conveniently ignoring, of course, is that Satan was created by God, and is only allowed to operate because God wishes it so. Consequently…God can’t be held blameless for this “demonic influence” that you describe.

I'm don't consider myself smart enough to even contemplate all these mysteries. They are further above me than I am above a chimp. However, when you are actively championing and celebrating the destruction of guidelines that for thousands of years have demonstrated they are more likely to produce favorable results for people, children, families, and society, imo something evil must be running amok.

You know me well enough at this point to know my libertarian side couldn't care less what consenting adults want to do. I'm very far from being a saint. But you can do those things without attacking and hating those that disagree with you and without bringing innocent impressionable children into this. And I hold corporations responsible for being too weak to stand up against obvious hatred and child abuse.

[thaskalos]

Originally Posted by classhandicapper

I'm don't consider myself smart enough to even contemplate all these mysteries. They are further above me than I am above a chimp. However, when you are actively championing and celebrating the destruction of guidelines that for thousands of years have demonstrated they are more likely to produce favorable results for people, children, society etc... imo something evil must be running amok.

You know me well enough at this point to know my libertarian side couldn't care less what consenting adults want to do. I'm very far from being a saint. But you can do those things without attacking and hating those that disagree with you and without bringing innocent impressionable children into this. And I hold corporations responsible for being to weak top stand up against obvious hatred and child abuse.

I didn't say that I applaud this decision that the Dodgers have made...my intention was to comment on your statement that you are becoming "more religious" as a result of this 'Satanic influence' that you are witnessing.

I see this "Satanic influence" too...but how can this make me "more religious", when God himself is complicit in the affair. God is the "Boss", you know...

[United Puett]

Apparently the "Sisters of Perpetual Indulgence" have been around since 1979. We should compare the number of sexual abuse complaints that have been levied against them in the last 44 years vs the Catholic church to determine which organization has done more damage

[classhandicapper]

Originally Posted by thaskalos

I see this "Satanic influence" too...but how can this make me "more religious", when God himself is complicit in the affair. God is the "Boss", you know...

Again, this is a copout answer, but I see some of this as way too far over my head to explain.

Just thinking out loud....

I was raised Catholic, went to Catholic school, slowly became agnostic in adulthood, but feel myself starting to swing back. Maybe I'm just hoping there's more to our existence now than in the past because what I see now disgusts me. I'm waiting for God to clean up the mess given I'm giving up on man doing it.

The closest I can come to an explanation is that God gave the Angels (Satan) the same free will he gave man. He's mostly just a passive observer, but in the end he's going to settle all accounts fairly - good or bad. Which way we go is on us.

[classhandicapper]

Originally Posted by United Puett

Apparently the "Sisters of Perpetual Indulgence" have been around since 1979. We should compare the number of sexual abuse complaints that have been levied against them in the last 44 years vs the Catholic church to determine which organization has done more damage

I don't want to be a Catholic Church defender, but this is partly a numbers game.

The larger the group or institution, the more good and evil is going to be done by that group or institution. That goes for teachers, other religions, Boy Scout leaders, athletic coaches, and so on.

The Catholic Church is huge.

So it's probably inevitable there are going to be some priests that engage in sexual misbehavior. The real damage was the ignorance and irresponsibility that allowed it to continue once they identified any individual priest that was an abuser. They have to do a much better job at recruitment (screening), ensuring safety, alerting family and law enforcement, and acting quickly to stop this kind of stuff.

[thaskalos]

Originally Posted by classhandicapper

I don't want to be a Catholic Church defender, but this is partly a numbers game.

The larger the group or institution, the more good and evil is going to be done by that group or institution. That goes for teachers, other religions, Boy Scout leaders, athletic coaches, and so on.

The Catholic Church is huge.

So it's probably inevitable there are going to be some priests that engage in sexual misbehavior. The real damage was the ignorance and irresponsibility that allowed it to continue once they identified any individual priest that was an abuser. They have to do a much better job at recruitment (screening), ensuring safety, alerting family and law enforcement, and acting quickly to stop this kind of stuff.

So...when the pedophile priests were reassigned to different parishes so they could continue abusing other kids...that to you is "ignorance and irresponsibility"? I wonder why you aren't so "lenient" when you are talking about George Soros...