Has the time come?

[PaceAdvantage]

Originally Posted by Deepsix

<grin> I actually meant "paragraph" vice "sentence" BUT I'm not all that bright.

Plus you're really, really old school with those <grin> and <smile> thingys.

<----see how it works these days?

[Tom]

Originally Posted by PaceAdvantage

<----see how it works these days?

I love this new technology! <wink>

[highnote]

So it's October 6th. No posts in 3 days. Does this mean the time for an organized boycott has not come?

Or maybe an unorganized boycott is already here?

My contention is that informed horseplayers are boycotting in an unorganized fashion. They just refuse to bet if they don't get the best rates -- whether it be a low takeout in general or a rebate.

[lsosa54]

Today's field sizes alone are an automatic boycott for me. This is from someone that attended his first race at Santa Anita in April 1988 and has been handicapping the SoCal circuit almost exclusively until recently. I'm now finding a ton more opportunity at Penn National, the LA circuit, TP, and Remington.

[andymays]

http://www.bloodhorse.com/horse-raci...2-for-all-bets

Excerpt:

A racetrack traditionally known for its high pari-mutuel takeout has greatly reduced it to 12% across the board.

Hialeah Park, which only offers Quarter Horse racing at this time, made the announcement Oct. 6, touting its takeout rate as the “industry low.”

[The_Knight_Sky]

WOW !

That's great. What a complete 180 degree turnabout from what Mr. Brunetti charged in Hialeah's waning days. Now I count the days for an extended Thoroughbred Meet.

This should put some pressure on Gulfstream Park - Tampa Bay Downs and Calder to rethink their current rates and keep their audience.

I am hoping that this is not an "introductory price" the way credit cards scam consumers and then locking them in.

[rwwupl]

Originally Posted by andymays

http://www.bloodhorse.com/horse-raci...2-for-all-bets

Excerpt:

A racetrack traditionally known for its high pari-mutuel takeout has greatly reduced it to 12% across the board.

Hialeah Park, which only offers Quarter Horse racing at this time, made the announcement Oct. 6, touting its takeout rate as the “industry low.”

Well, well, one by one racetracks are experimenting with lower takeout.. it is just a matter of time and conditions that a major thoroughbred track sees the handwriting on the wall and they start competing for our business in a serious way.

A natural boycott is on now,aided by the economy,choice and competition.

rwwupl

[Horseplayersbet.com]

I smell a buycott.

[DeanT]

Wednesday, October 6, 2010

Wow! Hialeah Quarterhorses go 12% Across the Board Takeout


According to the Bloodhorse, Hialeah for their quarterhorse meet will go 12% takeout, across the board.

For the players of that sport, you have a pretty clear choice: Los Alamitos who raised their takeout this year to about 22% blended, or Hialeah at an almost 50% discount.

This is in sharp contrast to 17 years ago where we looked at old time racing, being, well, old time racing in a story on HANAblog. Bill Finely was analyzing the Hialeah thoroughbred takeout situation at that time.

From 1993.

"Only this year will be different. Hialeah owner John Brunetti will do the unimaginable; he will make Hialeah the worst place on earth to play horses. Hialeah opens April 1, April Fools' Day for South Florida bettors. Brunetti plans to institute what is believed to be the highest takeout structure in the history of U.S. thoroughbred racing. The take on win, place and show bets will be 23.1 percent and there will be a 28 percent take on all other wagers. Winning money -- never easy at the track -- will be impossible at Hialeah."

17 years......

Moving from "the worst place on earth to play the horses" to "the best place on earth to play the horses"

We are witnessing a full circle development in the state of this game. Losing over 50% of your yearly handle and half your customers tends to do that.

[the little guy]

12% of $10 is better than 20% of zero....at least from the track's perspective.

[rwwupl]

Andymays sent out this good news to interested people in California,like the CHRB and Los Alamitos which have recently gone the other way on the takeout issue.

Even stubborn people will see the light .. when they compete for our business.

[andymays]

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