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08-31-2010, 09:16 PM
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easygoer
Join Date: Feb 2007
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ILL. ADW
I think that it is a shame what is going on with the Ill. residents that cant play their favorite tracks at home from their ADWs. What is going on here?
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08-31-2010, 09:59 PM
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Join Date: Jul 2009
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Actually, starting tomorrow we can play all tracks from home again according to a ruling by the Il. Racing Board today. Also granted was Hawthorne's request to slash purses and reduce their upcoming fall meet to 4 day weeks dropping Sunday racing from the schedule.
Last edited by illinoisbred; 08-31-2010 at 10:01 PM.
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08-31-2010, 11:53 PM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by illinoisbred
Actually, starting tomorrow we can play all tracks from home again according to a ruling by the Il. Racing Board today. Also granted was Hawthorne's request to slash purses and reduce their upcoming fall meet to 4 day weeks dropping Sunday racing from the schedule.
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They should try slashing their takeouts.
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09-01-2010, 09:37 AM
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Originally Posted by mannyberrios
I think that it is a shame what is going on with the Ill. residents that cant play their favorite tracks at home from their ADWs. What is going on here?
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http://www.bloodhorse.com/horse-raci...llinois-racing
This article will shed more light to your question..it appeared under the Pace "ADW' section recently.
Excerpt and high lights orig. from Andymays...
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5% cap imposed by the Illinois Racing Board on advance deposit wagering fees charged by out-of-state racetracks to send their signals to customers in Illinois has led to a significant downturn in wagering from those sources.The fee cap, approved by the state legislature, went into effect July 12. Since that time, Illinois ADW customers have seen a significant drop in the number of tracks on which they can wager through XpressBet.com and TwinSpires.com, the two platforms approved by the IRB.
According to the TwinSpires.com website, among the signals that have been cut off from Illinois ADW customers are Calder, Del Mar, and Saratoga, consistently among the most popular tracks on which to wager this time of the year. The signals are not being provided because the tracks are among those that charge higher rates, usually 8%-9% for their signals.
IRB figures through Aug. 3 indicate average daily ADW wagering has plunged 35.7% from $316,532 a day to $203,394 since the fee cap took effect.
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Arnold said the fact California has a cap on ADW fees is insufficient reason to impose one in Illinois or any other state. He noted California was the first to authorize ADW providers, and in doing so the state established the same rate that is charged for simulcast signals. If anything, California should lift or raise its cap rather than other states following its lead, he said.
"California does need to take action," Arnold said. "We should not follow California’s bad policy and impose it here."
Arnold said there is a common misperception among many within the racing industry that higher signal fees benefit mainly the ADW providers. In fact, according to Arnold, the converse is true, and that when caps are imposed, the lower fees result in the ADW providers getting a higher rate, and that the brunt of the decreases are felt by the tracks and horsemen.
"Any time a state imposes an ADW cap, the only winner is the ADW company," Arnold said. Both Arlington and ADW provider TwinSpires.com are owned by Churchill Downs Inc.
Illinois THA president Mike Campbell said the "single issue that is fueling the war of the signal prices" is the 3.5% California fee cap . "It is causing this reaction throughout the industry," Campbell said. "Our problem here in Illinois is that this is the shot across the bow. It could potentially be a lethal blow."
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09-01-2010, 01:01 PM
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Join Date: Apr 2009
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http://www.thoroughbredtimes.com/nat...ering-cap.ASPX
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Responding to a 47% drop in betting from each of the account wagering providers that do business in Illinois since regulators imposed a 5% cap on out-of-state wagering fees effective July 12, the Illinois Racing Board on Tuesday voted 7-1 to raise the cap to 9%.
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09-01-2010, 04:04 PM
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Registered User
Join Date: Mar 2003
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Originally Posted by andymays
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"Bob Dwyer of Naperville, Illinois, a member of Horseplayers Association of North America, testified on behalf of the rule change.
“It was discouraging not to have those tracks available,” he said. “We’ve seen what happens when a regulation is put in that’s not consistent with the market. I have confidence in the business acumen of the people who run the (‘B’) tracks. It’s in their best interest to keep fees low.”
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I can't figure out what he's saying or who he's representing.
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09-01-2010, 04:09 PM
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Veteran
Join Date: Apr 2009
Posts: 9,908
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Originally Posted by InsideThePylons-MW
"Bob Dwyer of Naperville, Illinois, a member of Horseplayers Association of North America, testified on behalf of the rule change.
“It was discouraging not to have those tracks available,” he said. “We’ve seen what happens when a regulation is put in that’s not consistent with the market. I have confidence in the business acumen of the people who run the (‘B’) tracks. It’s in their best interest to keep fees low.”
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I can't figure out what he's saying or who he's representing.
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I didn't read the whole thing because I really don't follow what goes on there. I don't know much about the situation.
I just posted the article in the thread to add information.
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09-05-2010, 01:04 PM
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broken-down horseplayer
Join Date: Feb 2008
Location: Portland, OR area
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Originally Posted by InsideThePylons-MW
I can't figure out what he's saying or who he's representing.
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Agreed. From the player's perspective, how do we know if B-Track Downs is charging 3%, 5% or 9% for its signal?
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