House Intel Committee

[PaceAdvantage]

Originally Posted by elysiantraveller

What Truth?

That Trump was already under investigation regardless of the now infamous dossier? That the Memo is grossly misleading?

Senior House Intel Committee Republicans are saying this... Not some left wing conspiracy. Not the MSM.

You are right we will get the facts as they come and that appears to be fine except to Trumps ardent supporters and the White House itself.

I'm curious...if this memo was a big nothing-burger and grossly misleading, why did even opponents of Trump initially rally against its release?

Was it another game of 4d chess? They rallied against it in hopes this would convince Trump to release it?

I bet that's what this all is, right?

[davew]

Little Adam Schiff wants to vote this afternoon to release the dim version.


More info is better. maybe quotes of the DNC / HRC dossier or some articles quoting the leaks from crowdstrike or fusion GPS

[boxcar]

Originally Posted by elysiantraveller

I'm getting tired of the deflection and constant ignoring of points.

Nunes hadn't read all the information. Technically didn't even write the Memo. Gowdy and other Republicans are saying this...

Since the Memo is turning out to be a giant swing and a miss by team Trump we're back to beating the old drums...

It gets old. His defenders will literally ignore anything that hurts their narrative and lack and objectivity in the matter.

Trump started getting investigated due to the fact Papadapolous got drunk and ran his mouth. He's still being investigated. When it wraps up we will all have our answers.

What gets old is you. Probably the real reason for you "getting tired".

Again...you have NO IDEA (nor does anyone else here) what Nunez read when he visited the WH "archives" along with Trump. And no one has ever said that "the Memo" is the end-all, be-all. As Track Collector has correctly said, it's just the beginning. The tip of the iceberg. Stay tuned and keep patient.

[boxcar]

Originally Posted by davew

Little Adam Schiff wants to vote this afternoon to release the dim version.


More info is better. maybe quotes of the DNC / HRC dossier or some articles quoting the leaks from crowdstrike or fusion GPS

I can hardly wait to read Schiffty's version of events.

[elysiantraveller]

Originally Posted by PaceAdvantage

I'm curious...if this memo was a big nothing-burger and grossly misleading, why did even opponents of Trump initially rally against its release?

Was it another game of 4d chess? They rallied against it in hopes this would convince Trump to release it?

I bet that's what this all is, right?

One of the big reasons is the intelligence community doesn't like their classified stuff being thrown out in public.

It was a big nothing burger. Most reactions were puzzled as to how this was some bombshell thing like we were led to believe. Meanwhile precedent for these courts to now become public domain has been set.

[elysiantraveller]

Originally Posted by davew

to repeat Track Collector


Some of our forum liberals will refuse to believe the truth because their source of information has fed them false and distorted material, and/or they have been indoctrinated to such an extent that simply refuse to accept that the government, mostly under Democratic control, has engaged in illegal activities in an effort to prevent/take down political opposition.

How about a forum conservative that can look at things objectively. How about Gowdy, Hurd, and Wenstrup saying this release did nothing to de-legitimize the investigation?

Again these key facts and statements by people who aren't liberal and who WERE involved in the process go largely ignored but the Bots.

The Memo even says the campaign was already under investigation... their own memo says that... yet you keep ranting about the MSM.

Its hilarious really.

[hcap]

Originally Posted by boxcar

You don't know what Nunez has read and what he hasn't read.

You know squat.....

https://www.reuters.com/article/us-u...-idUSKBN1FM2V7

House intelligence chairman says has not read documents underlying memo

WASHINGTON (Reuters) - The head of the U.S. House of Representatives’ Intelligence Committee said on Friday he had not read the underlying materials referenced in a memo he and other Republicans on the panel assembled alleging bias against President Donald Trump in the FBI and Justice Department’s Russia probes.

[elysiantraveller]

Originally Posted by boxcar

What gets old is you. Probably the real reason for you "getting tired".

Again...you have NO IDEA (nor does anyone else here) what Nunez read when he visited the WH "archives" along with Trump. And no one has ever said that "the Memo" is the end-all, be-all. As Track Collector has correctly said, it's just the beginning. The tip of the iceberg. Stay tuned and keep patient.

I am.

I'm also not calling for the end of the investigation or that its all fake.

Pray tell when the other stuff is released and if it gives justification for the investigation will you say "fake news" or challenge their knowledge of the facts or buy it hook line and sinker?

[elysiantraveller]

Originally Posted by hcap

You know squat.....

https://www.reuters.com/article/us-u...-idUSKBN1FM2V7

You can't argue with people who don't actually read what the people involved are saying.

Gowdy, Hurd, Wenstrup; "Trump not exonerated. Not Explosive. Not Vindicated."

Nunes; "I didn't actually read all of it."

Nunes Memo; "Campaign was already being investigated for something else."

But... yeah... details.

[boxcar]

Originally Posted by elysiantraveller

I am.

I'm also not calling for the end of the investigation or that its all fake.

Pray tell when the other stuff is released and if it gives justification for the investigation will you say "fake news" or challenge their knowledge of the facts or buy it hook line and sinker?

Don't worry where I will stand. I will always side with the Truth because I can handle truth. How 'bout you?

[boxcar]

Originally Posted by hcap

You know squat.....

https://www.reuters.com/article/us-u...-idUSKBN1FM2V7

But that doesn't mean that he hasn't read material NOT in the Memo and, therefore, may know a lot more than he willing to reveal at this time.

Learn how to make logical inferences from what you read before presuming to tell anyone here "You know squat...".

[hcap]

Originally Posted by elysiantraveller

You can't argue with people who don't actually read what the people involved are saying.

Gowdy, Hurd, Wenstrup; "Trump not exonerated. Not Explosive. Not Vindicated."

Nunes; "I didn't actually read all of it."

Nunes Memo; "Campaign was already being investigated for something else."

But... yeah... details.

I know this well. Boxcar is the religious right of PA off topic. Benn arguing with him for over 10 years. He is not to be taken seriously

[Clocker]

Originally Posted by hcap

Boxcar is the religious right of PA off topic. Benn arguing with him for over 10 years.

One definition of insanity is repeating the same action while expecting a different result.

[hcap]

Originally Posted by Clocker

One definition of insanity is repeating the same action while expecting a different result.

I agree. But most of this board is comprised of similar debates. Are we all bonkers?

[davew]

Originally Posted by elysiantraveller

One of the big reasons is the intelligence community doesn't like their classified stuff being thrown out in public.

It was a big nothing burger. Most reactions were puzzled as to how this was some bombshell thing like we were led to believe. Meanwhile precedent for these courts to now become public domain has been set.

You miss the point of how they ILLEGALLY obtained their classified stuff. If they answer to no one, the country will become a fascist state and soon the 'national security agencies' will start killing or jailing people they disagree with.