"Praise in public; Rebuke in private"

[Teach]

“Stop chewing gum!” I said. A few minutes later, I scolded, “Will you two in the back stop talking! You’re disrupting the class,” I added.

Well, after that class was over, my department head, a man named Fred (he was observing my class) took me aside. The first words out of his mouth were: “How are you with constructive comments?” I replied, “That’s fine.”

My department head started by saying, “I enjoyed your lesson. You were well-prepared and you led a lively class discussion. You engaged the students,” he added. I want to compliment you on that,” he said. Yet, Fred went on to say that as a young teacher (I was in my second year of teaching) you fell into the same “trap” that lots of other young teachers often do. Your criticism of your students, although deserved, could have been handled differently, more professionally.

It was then that Fred went on to say: “Praise in public; Rebuke in private.” Fred continued, “By scolding those students in front of their peers only gives them the attention (for the wrong reason) that they crave.” “And,” he added, “your actions in rebuking them detracts from your lesson.” Fred then said, “If a certain group of students can rattle you, they’ll continue to do it. It only takes a couple ‘bad actors’ to ruin your otherwise excellent class.”

After a brief pause I said, “What would you suggest?” Fred replied, “If the matter can wait until the end of class, then take time to briefly speak to those students who were acting disruptively. You might consider,” Fred continued, “speaking with them after school. By then,” He added, “tensions will have subsided.”

“Oh, another possibility is to stand near the disruptive student(s). It can be done very subtly; yet they’ll quickly get the message from your physical presence. You can even try ‘a look’. I’ve seen some very effective teachers with good discipline firmly glance in the direction of a troublesome student. That will sometimes stop the disruptive behavior right in its tracks.”

Well, as we prepare for the inauguration of Donald J. Trump as our 45th President, I ask the question: “Should our incoming President consider the advice that was offered to me as a young teacher over 50 years ago”: “Praise in public; Rebuke in private”. How do you feel about the “Tweets”? Would Trump be better served if he conducted his correspondence in a more presidential manner? You be the judge.

[zico20]

No! I have had enough of the typical politicians. I want Trump to continue the way he has. Call them out in public, maybe they will get the message. It should be an entertaining 8 years!

[thaskalos]

Teach...I wish you would start threads a lot more often than you do.

[jk3521]

No, that would too much like acting "Presidential". Which by the way , he promised to do once elected. Maybe Friday afternoon he'll start ?



Entertaining, yes. Embarrassing, yes also.

[Greyfox]

You want him to call in Meryl Streep and talk to her privately?

[ElKabong]

Originally Posted by Teach

“Stop chewing gum!” I said. A few minutes later, I scolded, “Will you two in the back stop talking! You’re disrupting the class,” I added.

Well, after that class was over, my department head, a man named Fred (he was observing my class) took me aside. The first words out of his mouth were: “How are you with constructive comments?” I replied, “That’s fine.”

My department head started by saying, “I enjoyed your lesson. You were well-prepared and you led a lively class discussion. You engaged the students,” he added. I want to compliment you on that,” he said. Yet, Fred went on to say that as a young teacher (I was in my second year of teaching) you fell into the same “trap” that lots of other young teachers often do. Your criticism of your students, although deserved, could have been handled differently, more professionally.

It was then that Fred went on to say: “Praise in public; Rebuke in private.” Fred continued, “By scolding those students in front of their peers only gives them the attention (for the wrong reason) that they crave.” “And,” he added, “your actions in rebuking them detracts from your lesson.” Fred then said, “If a certain group of students can rattle you, they’ll continue to do it. It only takes a couple ‘bad actors’ to ruin your otherwise excellent class.”

After a brief pause I said, “What would you suggest?” Fred replied, “If the matter can wait until the end of class, then take time to briefly speak to those students who were acting disruptively. You might consider,” Fred continued, “speaking with them after school. By then,” He added, “tensions will have subsided.”

“Oh, another possibility is to stand near the disruptive student(s). It can be done very subtly; yet they’ll quickly get the message from your physical presence. You can even try ‘a look’. I’ve seen some very effective teachers with good discipline firmly glance in the direction of a troublesome student. That will sometimes stop the disruptive behavior right in its tracks.”

Well, as we prepare for the inauguration of Donald J. Trump as our 45th President, I ask the question: “Should our incoming President consider the advice that was offered to me as a young teacher over 50 years ago”: “Praise in public; Rebuke in private”. How do you feel about the “Tweets”? Would Trump be better served if he conducted his correspondence in a more presidential manner? You be the judge.

May want to run this by congressman John Lewis of Georgia first. He's actually in office, and barking like a dog as usual.

[jk3521]

Originally Posted by ElKabong

May want to run this by congressman John Lewis of Georgia first. He's actually in office, and barking like a dog as usual.

All politicians should keep their mouths shut. They all have diarrhea of the mouth .

[MONEY]

So Trump praises Putin in public & gets condemned by liberals without knowing what Trump will say to Putin in private.

Bad Actors are not all the same and need to be treated differently.

George Bush & Barack Obama have always threatened their international adversaries in public.
This pisses me off, because if you call out world leaders in public, you corner them & give them little chance to back down.

I'm afraid that Trump is on his way to repeating the Bush & Obama mistakes.

Having written the above, sometimes public humiliation is necessary to stop bad actors.

Below are how I dealt with different types of bad behavior.

When my children were young and misbehaved, I would give them a big hug.
The hug would anger them a little, but they would stop misbehaving.

The people that lived on E 139th St. & Willis Ave. would complain to me about a POS that would pee in public without making any attempt to cover his wares. The lowlife was locked up several times for exposing himself, but kept right on peeing in the street.

One day I turn the corner & there he was with his back to me peeing in the open. I didn't lock him up. What I did was walk up behind him & kick him as hard as I could up his ass. He was never again locked up for public urination & I never received another complaint about him.

[chadk66]

Trump needs to continue to dance with the chick that got him there. That's what he was elected to do.

[ReplayRandall]

Originally Posted by thaskalos

Teach...I wish you would start threads a lot more often than you do.

Oh Teach, Oh Teach.....Please spare me the adulation of a commie teacher..

[johnhannibalsmith]

I thought for sure the moral of the story was that you had decided that really you had it wrong and this Putin thing with Trump was really the latter doing just what you described to the former.

[NorCalGreg]

Those techniques can get a teacher at a urban high school today seriously hurt.

This has nothing to do with anything....but it's so funny
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