Bring Dutrow Back

[jay68802]

Is this the right thing to do?

http://http://www.thoroughbreddailyn...nstate-dutrow/

[Brogan]

I'll try to boil this down to a simple answer:

NOPE

[jay68802]

http://www.thoroughbreddailynews.com...nstate-dutrow/

Sorry about first link

[jay68802]

I will start by saying that I liked the guy. As stated in the article, he was a character. He said what was on his mind. When I read this article, I keep thinking how what was written, shows how out of touch the racing industry is with its customers. "Everybody was using steroids, because they were legal". Sounds a lot like Stephanie Beatie saying that she was cheating because "everyone else was". The article also says that the use of steroids has been banned. Masochistic's case say's other wise, steroids are still being used, but under the pretext of increasing a horses appetite. The fact still remains that he was caught using a illegal substance, and was punished. Some of the rules are made to protect the integrity in racing, and it seems that these rules are the ones some in this industry spend a lot of time trying to get around.

Now Romans's has started this petition for reinstatement. Wants to get 1500 signatures. Would that be enough to sway the New York Racing and Wagering board? I doubt it, but who knows.

What if horse players submitted a petition with 1500 signatures asking for lower take out? Or a petition asking for the timing of races to be started when the gates open? Would it be enough to have these changes made? I think that we could submit 15,000 signatures and horse racing would ignore it.

Dutrow cheated, and did so knowingly. IMO, he felt he was above the rules, and if caught, would not face a punishment that was severe. He rolled the dice and lost.

[lamboguy]

Originally Posted by jay68802

I will start by saying that I liked the guy. As stated in the article, he was a character. He said what was on his mind. When I read this article, I keep thinking how what was written, shows how out of touch the racing industry is with its customers. "Everybody was using steroids, because they were legal". Sounds a lot like Stephanie Beatie saying that she was cheating because "everyone else was". The article also says that the use of steroids has been banned. Masochistic's case say's other wise, steroids are still being used, but under the pretext of increasing a horses appetite. The fact still remains that he was caught using a illegal substance, and was punished. Some of the rules are made to protect the integrity in racing, and it seems that these rules are the ones some in this industry spend a lot of time trying to get around.

Now Romans's has started this petition for reinstatement. Wants to get 1500 signatures. Would that be enough to sway the New York Racing and Wagering board? I doubt it, but who knows.

What if horse players submitted a petition with 1500 signatures asking for lower take out? Or a petition asking for the timing of races to be started when the gates open? Would it be enough to have these changes made? I think that we could submit 15,000 signatures and horse racing would ignore it.

Dutrow cheated, and did so knowingly. IMO, he felt he was above the rules, and if caught, would not face a punishment that was severe. He rolled the dice and lost.

steroids are being administered with the use of clen beuterol

[Tom]

Let me put it this way.
Once you take your trash out to the curb, do bring it back and put it back in the fridge?

He cheated, he knew it, screw him, and the horse he milk shaked,.

And if Romans wants him back, we better be checking HIS horses a little more closely.

[PointGiven]

Originally Posted by Brogan

I'll try to boil this down to a simple answer:

NOPE

This. Nothing more to add.

[Robert Fischer]

I don't know enough about the details to have an opinion.


Some infer that Dutrow was banned more for his big mouth during the Big Brown run, regarding the public's naivete of performance enhancement and steroid use, than for the subsequent or collective infraction(s).

Even if that is the case, I still don't know enough about this to have an opinion.

It's an interesting subject. I liked Dutrow. I liked handicapping and betting him.

[Afleet]

He needs to pay me back all the money he cheated me out of first. I used to lose betting against his horses who would 'improve' 20+ on their speed figures

[thaskalos]

Originally Posted by Tom

Let me put it this way.
Once you take your trash out to the curb, do bring it back and put it back in the fridge?

He cheated, he knew it, screw him, and the horse he milk shaked,.

And if Romans wants him back, we better be checking HIS horses a little more closely.

I echo this sentiment through and through. IMO...Romans should be watched closely from now on.

[JustRalph]

Originally Posted by thaskalos

I echo this sentiment through and through. IMO...Romans should be watched closely from now on.

What the hell is up with Romans? Wasn’t he running horses against Dutrow?

[RunForTheRoses]

Is he really really gone or is he Michele Nevin and Rudy Rod?

[JustRalph]

Originally Posted by RunForTheRoses

Is he really really gone or is he Michele Nevin and Rudy Rod?

I hope he’s Rudy, the shoes are much more comfortable

[JimG]

No Babe.

[JustRalph]

Originally Posted by JimG

No Babe.

Nice!