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ATR has various screens that perform various functions. The graph screen, for example, allows the user to analyze the straight and exacta pools and their relationships to each other. Another screen carries the history of Win and Exacta (computed) odds on each horse from a user assigned time (up to 20 minutes) down to post time.
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Thanks for the clarification. If I understand you correctly, you’re saying that the
user must analyze the relationships between the mutual (straight) and exacta pools? My system does it automatically because it is built into the analysis itself. While I am not familiar with all of the other features of the ATR as you described, my feeling is that it leaves too much in the hands of the user. Correct me if I’m wrong, but I find that very convenient. Because if something is misinterpreted by the user, then only he is to blame and not the system he’s trying to use. The mere fact that there’s a (120) page manual gives the impression that it leaves too much open for explanation. Since I don’t have the manual I can’t really qualify that any further.
I also really don’t understand the comments about the mutual pools and the exotics. They’ve been around for as long as I’ve been playing. Granted the Devere system has been around since the 60’s. As I mentioned before, I find it absolutely incredible that anyone could believe that even with a team of observers, that they could possibly gather enough information from the tote board to make a half-way decent analysis, and then on top of it make a rational decision based on that analysis!
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Totemaster: with all due respect, your way, as represented on your website, isn't the only way to go about tote analysis. I used your trial for a few days. It might be valid, but I didn't see any positive correlation in it, and I couldn't begin to justify $1 per racecard per day, let alone the $25 per card per day that you were asking on a continual basis. Perhaps others can do better
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On the other hand, my analysis (whether good, bad or indifferent) is being publicly judged based on just “a few days” of usage? You must be joking! I would certainly like to know how you determined that it showed a lack of “positive correlation”. Correlation to what? If it’s to your comprehension of the methods I employ, then I would certainly have to agree. It is impossible to make that determination, simply because I only describe the basic approach to the tote analysis. I wasn’t about to put a (120) page e-manual on-line, so that players have room to justify their own errors in judgment. I’m certainly not going to give away years of work and development by disclosing my detailed approach. Its no wonder that you couldn’t justify the cost with only a few days of use. I have members that have made enough money during the trial period alone (which is free) to justify weeks of usage. They obviously do better because they follow instructions and gain an appreciation for something that was completely outside of their game. They suddenly realize that the tote board is a lot more then just viewing the changing odds.
You’re right! It certainly is not the only game in town, but after hearing about things like the ATR and Devere schemes, like I said, I believe it is light years ahead in both analytical functionality and user friendliness. And the best thing about it is, that the results from every race at every track that’s done are completely documented and stored for future reference. My users don’t have to store a thing, because they have complete access to it. They don’t have to worry about making a mistake, because everything is done for them. If the system has a shortcoming in this race or that, they can simply blame the analysis and not themselves.
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That's not true anymore because there are so many people doing it (most of them incorrectly) that the "live" horse that used to get bet down to 4-1 is now seen by the simulcast players and hammered down to 2-1 where it's no longer profitable. The smarter "insiders" have learned to bet their money through simulcast centers in a way that doesn't show until the race has gone off (hence a possible explanation for the dropdowns from 7-2 to 9-5 that you see so often after the race goes off).
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While I can’t speak for those you use alternative systems for analyzing the tote board or how they put them to use, I can say that the so-called “smarter insiders” are not gaining a thing by looking at just the odds. If that’s how they determine they’re play. The insider information that I value is coming from those who are much closer to the game and have more at stake then just a simple wager. Many are under the impression that this "late" money is coming in from a few players wagering heavily. When in fact, its coming from many players wagering at remote off-track and on-line facilities. Besides, I personally enjoy seeing the odds drop down, because more often then not the truly live horse suddenly becomes an overlay. From what I’ve witnessed over the years, “early money”
far outweighs “late money”. But, to each his own!
Best of Luck!
